Re: Stalls and Thoughts

Dudley Henriques <dhenriques@xxxxxxx> wrote in
news:EdqdnZ1ge8zGHEHanZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@xxxxxxx:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques <dhenriques@xxxxxxx> wrote in news:7JGdnS1ILaP_
4UHanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@xxxxxxx:

Bob F. wrote:
Where did you come to the conclusion it was correct in both cases?
I just said I am not surprised the term got "high jacked. and it
wouldn't be the first time" Meaning, incorrectly. I've just never
heard it being used associated with the back of the power curve in
50 years of aviation that's all. Could have missed it. Love to
see some real documentation.

You might or might not not find documentation. The first time I
heard it was in connection with the F100 crash at Edwards. I've
heard it since used by several sources when discussing landing
accidents involving low and slow approach profiles.

Well, like "dragging it in" it's not exactly a tech term. But it's
origins are in the shape of the envelope and relate to mach buffet
problems associated with high alt flight. It's poorly understood,
even by most airline pilots, and frequently misused, usually as a
modrn equivelent of "there be dragons there" for all sorts of things
that happen around the edges of all sorts of flight envelopes. I've
heard a chopper guy use it to describe the lead lag roll they get
when they go too fast, for instance.


Bertie
Perhaps I misread the poster's question. he stated as follows;

The Sargon wrote and I answered;
"I am curious as to the meaning of the phrase "..dragging it in". As
in "...he turned on final, dragging it in".

Perhaps I'm nuts, but I took this wording to be referring to an
approach, not the high altitude scenario :-))


Yeh, the coffin corner thing is high alt.


Bertie
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