Re: How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?

Not true at all, handheld GPS moving map units can be had for as little as 300.00 less if used. and non aviation units for less then 100.00. If you don't know the area then you had better have one. But looking at the chart there are lots of places where the airspace does not get restricted until 3000 feet giving you plenty of room go under the class b airspace. Just because you can't do it does not mean anyone else would have a issue with it. You simply don't have a valid point of reference.

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:vqg3q3tkgokgtj3vbmpv379gt6kv25381c@xxxxxxxxxx
kmies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

On Jan 31, 5:35 am, Mxsmanic <mxsma...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What is happening to the FAA? The new Class B airspace at KPHX drives > another
> few nails into the GA coffin.

Huh? Why, explain.

Because it depends so much on moving-map navigation systems, rather than just
VORs and radials or landmarks. If you don't have a fancy glass display that
shows exactly where you are, you can easily bust the Class B without realizing
it. In previous configurations, you could use PXR to keep you out of trouble
through a large part of the airspace as long as you had a VOR receiver and
DME. Now you can't. Given the cost of advanced moving-map systems, many GA
aircraft aren't going to have them, and this new configuration seems to be a
deliberate attempt to keep GA aircraft in this category out of the airspace.

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