Re: 2008 AOPA Sweeps Archer Useful Load

On Jan 2, 4:09 pm, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
Marco Leon wrote:
Just read the article on the new sweepstakes plane. What stood out was the
700 lbs.+ full-fuel payload on the early Archers. Is that right?? Is anyone
seeing that kind of payload? It's hard to believe it has the same if not
better load-carrying capability than some Sixes/Saratogas.

  That would sound right for the early Cherokee 180s (mine in 715 lbs with 50
gallons onboard), but isn't typical for the Archers.  The Archers gained
weight with the longer wing, extended fuselage and much larger stabilator.
Piper tried to offset that somewhat by bumping the gross weight an extra 50
lbs. but the typical useful loads were still around 600 lbs with full fuel..

  That is still much better than the later model Archer III which really
suffered from weight creep.  I flew a new one a couple of years ago and was
surpised to find that it's useful load (with a modest panel) was over 200 lbs.
less than my short bodied Cherokee 180.

So I have my Piper - Single Engine Aircraft book (that orange one by
Jones Publishing) in front of me and it indeed says the 1976 Archer II
has a useful load of 1160 lbs making the full fuel payload about 860
lbs. (2550 lbs Gross wt. and 1390 Avg Empty wt. with 300 lb full
fuel) Yeah, *sure* it is. The 1977-1979 models are shown as having a
1034 lb useful load which equals a 734 lb. full fuel payload. I
realize my Piper book is showing marketing..err..book numbers but a
260 lb difference from actual is a real stretch. Maybe the Piper guys
were still suffereing from the effects of acid in the 1960's...

I wonder where AOPA is getting their data.

Marco
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    ... was the 700 lbs.+ full-fuel payload on the early Archers. ... That would sound right for the early Cherokee 180s (mine in 715 lbs ... but isn't typical for the Archers. ... 1034 lb useful load which equals a 734 lb. full fuel payload. ...
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  • Re: 2008 AOPA Sweeps Archer Useful Load
    ... 700 lbs.+ full-fuel payload on the early Archers. ... but isn't typical for the Archers. ... Piper tried to offset that somewhat by bumping the gross weight an extra 50 ... lbs. but the typical useful loads were still around 600 lbs with full fuel. ...
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