Re: Electric Car? How about a Compressed Air Car?

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:35:16 -0800 (PST), Dave <nf6f@xxxxxxxx> wrote
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On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Larry Dighera <LDigh...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:35:46 -0800 (PST), Dave <n...@xxxxxxxx> wrote
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The Chevrolet Volt is "coming" as well.

Can you test drive it?

Not yet, but you can read about it here: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/the-chevrolet-v.html

David Johnson

Thank you for the informative link.


The Chevrolet Volt:
Not all is rosy at GM: the striking styling of the Volt concept
car has officially been nixed due to a poor coefficient of drag.

... an ?aggressive? target production date, according to Bob Lutz,
of November 2010.

Three years! A lot of advances in battery technology can happen in
that time.


http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/volt1.png
120 kW (160+ HP) electric motor, 53 kW (71+ HP) 3-cylinder
(1-liter) genset, 16 kWh Li-ion battery pack. (1 horsepower =
745.7 watts)

The company settled on a 40-mile all-electric range because it
would cover daily driving of 78% of Americans, according to US
Department of Transportation figures.

Comparing the fuel costs between old and new methods of
propulsion, GM estimated that driving costs in EV mode would be 2
cents per mile&mash;or 1 cent per mile if charged
off-peak?compared to about 12 cents per mile per gallon of
gasoline for a typical car today.

The company hopes to sell the first-generation Volt for around
US$30,000, putting it within the high range of compact cars.


Tesla Motors:
http://www.teslamotors.com/learn_more/faqs.php
Current reservation holders for 2008 model year Tesla Roadsters
have each already received an estimated delivery date in 2008.
Wait list customers who are offered a 2008 car can expect to take
delivery in the fourth quarter of 2008.


Ford:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/01/ford_announces_.html
Ford Announces Hydrogen-Electric Plug-in Hybrid Drive and
Airstream Concept

The HySeries drive in the AirStream Concept combines a lithium-ion
battery pack with a compact fuel cell system as a range
extender?the fuel cell?s sole function is to recharge the
lithium-ion battery pack as needed.

The new fuel cell, supplied by Ford partner Ballard, operates in a
steady state, allowing a reduction in the size, weight, cost and
complexity of a conventional fuel cell system by more than 50%.
This approach also promises to more than double the lifetime of
the fuel cell stack, according to Ford.

The Ford Airstream Concept can travel 25 miles in battery
mode?depleting the battery?s state of charge to about 40%?before
the fuel cell begins operating to recharge the vehicle?s 336-volt
lithium-ion battery pack.

With the hydrogen-powered fuel cell, the range increases another
280 miles for a total of 305 miles.

The Ford Airstream Concept can travel at speeds of up to 85 mph.
An on-board charger (110/220 VAC) can refresh the battery pack
when a standard home outlet is available

The concept uses 4.5 kg of hydrogen stored in a 350-bar hydrogen
tank. The HySeries Drive delivers the combined city/highway
equivalent fuel economy of 41 miles per gallon.



http://www.greencarcongress.com/fuel_cells/index.html
Fuel Cells
.

Relevant Pages

  • Ford Airstream Fuel Cell PHEV
    ... The system, called HySeries Drive?, is powered by a 336-volt lithium-ion battery pack at ... all times and has a range of 25 miles on a full electric power. ... HySeries Drive powertrain delivers a combined city/highway gasoline equivalent fuel ... conventional fuel cell system by more than 50 percent. ...
    (sci.energy.hydrogen)
  • Re: FUEL CELL MOTORBIKE TO HIT U.S. STREETS
    ... > Fuel Cell Motorbike to Hit U.S. Streets ... > The motorcycle has a top speed of 50 miles an hour (80 ... scooter with a 6 liter tank. ... And not a light weight tank but a heavy, ...
    (sci.energy)
  • Re: 795 Miles in a day!
    ... It's 350 miles, not 250. ... IBA to tell me what I already know, and if I do go with a fuel cell I ... with 3.5 gallon tanks i don't want to push getting stranded. ...
    (rec.motorcycles.harley)
  • Re: 795 Miles in a day!
    ... I get well 160 miles on a good tank. ... Which is more than double the 160 miles MB mentioned. ... to tell me what I already know, and if I do go with a fuel cell I doubt it ... would let me go 350 miles anyway (I wouldn't get a fuel cell for an IB, ...
    (rec.motorcycles.harley)