Re: Hey Dudley, detailed analysis of these?



Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_iJfRDI-4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN1lCJlHIUk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9txDhi5wC2A

Have my own notions, but would be interested from a pros viewpoint.

I'm assuming that mechanical was not a factor in any of these, BTW.Might have been, but it appears that in each case the pilot went in with no commital gates and no escape route.

Bertie

Can't say much about the Extra (at least it looked like an Extra) but the Hurricane and the King Cobra are accidents I've been involved in with safety discussions within the war bird demonstration community.

To me, the KC accident looked like the result of a way too low energy state going through the top gate. He should have had at least 150 indicated inverted on top but it looked like he lost his energy to drag going up the up line by pulling too much g. He was practically dead in the water on top but apparently at fairly high power. This looked like it torqued him in roll pretty good and he lost it coming through the gate. He recovered as the angle of attack narrowed back into the work range but by then he was committed way too nose low and had no radial g available to affect the recovery.

The Hurricane looks like it will come down to a simple brain fart. The guy was very qualified and had experience. So far it looks like he simply committed to a Split S below his minimum AGL parameter for the Hurricane. This one is very similar to the Thunderbird F16 accident at Mountain Home AFB where the team lost a Viper. Brain fart!


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Dudley Henriques
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