Re: Republican War on Science cripples Air Force

On Jun 15, 9:25 am, hcobb <henry.c...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 14, 1:45 pm, Orval Fairbairn <o_r_fairbairn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

It isn't just the Republicans, HJC. The reduction in defense jobs, the
corporate Dilbertism and the lure of higher pay in IT have had a toll.

Stop deporting the thousands of Chinese engineering graduates back to
China and there would be plenty of talent for both Google and DoD.


So, if I were an American why would I choose to study for a career in
electrical/control engineering if:

1 Salaries are low and I can earn better elsewhere with less hard
work. (In part due to cuts in high tech defence expenditure and
consolidation and the shifting of manufacturing and engineering jobs
of shore)

2 My salary and career prospects are lowered by large immigration
intakes of foreigner graduates meaning that
I have to accept a lower paid job and worse conditions and therefore
buy a lower grade home, in a lower grade suburb and payoff more debt
both for my college tuition fees and household mortgage my wife has
not time to have children or go to raise them to go to work to pay for
all this but don’t worry we can have ‘maid’ come in.

The core of this is the fact that financial elites and ethnic interest
groups have succeeded in capturing both the Republicans and
Democrats. One would have to be a retard to see these parties as
differing in any way on this issue.

Elites positioned to take advantage of 'cheap labour' produced by
immigration as well as the market growth created by the need for the
new plebs to shelter, feed, cloth and entertain themselves have
promoted the benefits of big immigration with various arguments
(Americans are too lazy, food court multiculturalism, diversity,
racism and other blah blah). The 'growth' is in terms of GDP not
improvement in GDP/capita which shows no improvement and in fact leads
to a decline in quality of life as land & housing get both smaller and
more expensive. Politically organised ethnic groups are now favouring
their own ethnic, national or religious interests, rather than a
common good, under the guise of ‘diversity’. Opponents are branded
with the same words as if they were genocidal monsters.

You may as well replace most military recruits by mercenaries paid of
in pay and green cards as well as pass out green cards to anyone in
China or India with an engineering training so that the defence
contractors can negotiate lower salaries of say 15%.

A case in point: a few years ago US farmers were consistently
undercut by Brazilians in orange prices. The reason was not cheap
Brazilian labour (more expensive than the legalised illegal
immigration of the USA) but that Brazilian farmers had automated
orange and produce harvesting. In the High Tech “USA” if was
cheaper to use manual labour and as a result US farms lost the ability
to buy, run, own, service, sell, invent and maintain such equipment.
You need trained and educated people to do all those things and you
need to treat them decently so that you retain them.

There is a case for attracting and working with super exceptional
people, the ones with IQ over 130 that make the breakthroughs but
there is a lot more to be said for educating your own folks rather
than relegating them to a life of work in a call centre.

A career in engineering in the USA is not such a good prospect.



If somebody from China goes to GTMO we don't send them back to China,
so why do we shun Chinese who go to MIT?

There are
Chinese the race
Chinese the ethnicticity (not all are Han chinese)
Chinese the nationality.

The US governemt accept the later....

There have of course been quite a few cases of espionage and common
sense needs to be applied and one wouldn't think that relying
predominatly on foreign born to do high tech engineering is sane in
anyway.




-HJC
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