Re: Ping Art Kramer

Bombardier wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:09�pm, "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:40 pm, Dudley Henriques <dhenriq...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





On Jun 13, 4:17 pm, Dan <B24...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Bombardier wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:17 am, Dudley Henriques <dhenriq...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Art;
I have no dog in this constant fight that seems to be going on every
day on RAM, and please note that this request to you is being made
neutrally.
As a long time advocate of veteran's rights and after serving in an
honorary capacity in several veteran's associations, I am deeply
troubled by what I'm seeing on RAM these days.
The charges being made about your service should be answered, and
answering these charges in your case is quite simple as you have a web
site at your disposal.
I notice on your site that you have your decorations and awards
pictured but with no documentation accompanying the graphic.
I believe these new charges concerning the dates of your service can
be handled easily by simply scanning your DD214 and posting it on your
web site.
This isn't a challenge; just a suggestion that might clear the air
once and for all.
I dislike ANY vet's service being challenged without proof. The
situation has become such that it should be cleared up once and for
all.
Just a suggestion Art, not a challenge. Do as you see fit.
Thank you.
Dudley Henriques
An officer never explains and never complains. And never.goes on the
defensive.And my military career is on my website for all to see.
Arthur Kramer
�B-26 �"Willie The Wolf " Bombardier
Last Man Standing
www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
� �Art, Dudley is trying to give you an out. "An officer never explains
and never complains" is a cute expression. The problem is you have done
both ad nauseum, especially the latter.
� �It's up to you to explain the discrepancies in your stories. �I am
provided proof Willie wasn't in ETO when you claimed to be flying combat
missions in it. That alone requires an explanation.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Not really. I have mixed feelings about all this having been closely
involved with vets and vets issues most of my life. I've always felt
it strange, indeed VERY strange, that ANYONE would construct a web
site devoted so completely to one's military exploits and background,
complete with medals and decorations, extensive photographical
content, and the inclusion of extremely deep and personal writings
about incidents involving the web site's single owner, and omit from
that web site the single piece of material that ties the individual to
all the site contains; that being the individual's DD214.
If Mr. Kramer is legitimate, (and I have no evidence other than my
concern about the missing 214 that he isn't legitimate), and in lieu
of all the charges being posted against his "alleged" service on this
forum, I only wish that he would consider the addition of his DD214 on
his web site and do so without comment or fanfare, to put an end to
the speculation concerning his service.
I can see no reason whatsoever, after having posted on this forum in
the manner he has and for all the years that Mr. Kramer has posted
here, that adding a scan of his 214 to his site should be considered
as defensive in any way; simply clarification on an extremely delicate
and uncomfortable issue that establishes total and indisputable
credibility to everything Mr. Kramer has posted here and posted on his
web site.
Dudley Henriques
Mr. Dudley, "Art the Bombadier's" discharge papers are none
of my business, maybe in the comment field is written, " was
caught naked discharging into the General's 25 yo wife ".

His site is a monument to an achievement, I respect it for that,
but I'll leave it up to the vet's in the group to decide how credible
the web-site should be.
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Unfortuntely there are very few vets in this group. In my opinionn a
vet is a man who met the enemy in combat and exchanged fire with him.
That is neither Dudley or Dan.How about their military records?

Arthur Kramer
B-26 "Willie The Wolf " Bombardier
Last Man Standing
www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


In other words, you persist in personal attacks rather than address discrepancies in your story. Another sign of a fraud.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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