Re: Question for Guy???

On Nov 4, 1:29�am, guy <guyswetten...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 4 Nov, 05:38, Rob Arndt <teuton...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





Do you think that the Supermarine 391:http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/WtMiller/scan0009.jpg

... had it been built, would have replaced or complemented the
Supermarine Sea Fang:http://www.adam-lisa.supanet.com/images/Seafang/seafa3.jpg

Specs for the 391:

The Supermarine 391 was to be powered by the 24 cylinder Eagle engine
and would make use of the Spiteful's laminar flow wing, but this time
featuring radiators fully enclosed in the wing roots. This design
would use counter rotating propellers, considered essential to counter
the torque of such a powerful engine, and this Supermarine 391 had a
design speed of no less than 546mph, slightly highter than the Me
262!

So, why did the Sea Fang get built and the 391 cancelled since the
requirement for both was from March 1944, right?

Sea Fang's performance is lower and max speed down to 475 mph- around
the same as the Fw Ta 152H and Do-335...

Just curious...

Rob

p.s. ISTR that Hawker also had a proposal that was cancelled.

Engines.

The Seafang was a navalised Spiteful, in the same way as the Sea fury
was a navalised Fury, both used tried and trusted RR Griffons
(Spiteful, some Furys) Napier Sabres, by then pretty reliable (some
Furys) or Centaurus (some Furys)

The type 391 bore the same relationship to the Spiteful as the Hawker
P.1030 did to the Tempest (from which the Fury evolved)
Both used the 24cylinder RR Eagle engine but this engine was very
early in its development, ISTR only 6 ever built and one or two flown.
So by the time engine development could be complete the piston fighter
would be obsolete. (RR were never that keen on the Eagle seeing that
the future lay with gas turbines by then.)

Hawker therefore went with an RR Nene powered Fury - which became the
Sea Hawk, while Supermarine went for an RR Nene Spiteful - the
Attacker.

Guy- Hide quoted text -

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So which British naval fighter saw action first postwar? Sea Fury in
Korea?

Rob
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  • Re: Question for Guy???
    ... Supermarine Sea Fang:http://www.adam-lisa.supanet.com/images/Seafang/seafa3.jpg ... was a navalised Fury, both used tried and trusted RR Griffons ... Both used the 24cylinder RR Eagle engine but this engine was very ...
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    ... Supermarine Sea Fang:http://www.adam-lisa.supanet.com/images/Seafang/seafa3.jpg ... was a navalised Fury, both used tried and trusted RR Griffons ... Both used the 24cylinder RR Eagle engine but this engine was very ...
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  • Re: Question for Guy???
    ... Supermarine Sea Fang:http://www.adam-lisa.supanet.com/images/Seafang/seafa3.jpg ... was a navalised Fury, both used tried and trusted RR Griffons ... Both used the 24cylinder RR Eagle engine but this engine was very ...
    (rec.aviation.military)
  • Re: Question for Guy???
    ... Supermarine Sea Fang:http://www.adam-lisa.supanet.com/images/Seafang/seafa3.jpg ... was a navalised Fury, both used tried and trusted RR Griffons ... Both used the 24cylinder RR Eagle engine but this engine was very ...
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