Re: LockMart, Beoing team up for bomber

On Jan 30, 10:01 am, andr...@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Harry Andreas) wrote:
In article
<bb7d10ad-a490-47d7-b9df-cfcf8fd9a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, hcobb

<henry.c...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Now how do they beat next generation mobile SAM launchers so throughly
that these defenses are not even built?

Stealth and ESM

Quoting AvLeak:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=awst&id=news/aw122407p1.xml
U.S. Air Force planners are anxious about enhancements in air defense
technology, worrying that as powerful computer processing becomes more
ubiquitous and network cabling becomes cheaper, adversaries can link
radar systems of different types to raise their chances of spotting
and potentially shooting down even low-observable aircraft.

For a manned aircraft to outrange a next generation mobile SAM
launcher it needs to fire an airbreathing missile.

Not a given at all. Completely unsupported assertion on your part.

Avleak again:
Even though the F-22's stealth features and ability to fly supersonic
without afterburner greatly increase survivability, weaponry with
additional stand-off range is seen as important to the fighter's long-
term future. Russia is working on upgrades and follow-on development
to the S-400 partly driven by the ability to combat stealth. S-400-
derivative systems will also probably begin to proliferate during the
coming decade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_Triumf
Russian sources have claimed the S-400 is capable of detecting and
destroying targets out to a range of 400km (250 miles), such as
aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, including those with
a range of 3,500 km and a speed of 3 miles per second and stealth
aircraft.

As the AMRAAM is just barely pushing 100 miles, the Raptor has to fly
into harms way before it could launch a "mico-HARM" in response.

For this missile to strike before the mobile launcher gets under cover
again the missile must be supersonic and therefore ramjet or scramjet
powered.

Not a given at all. Completely unsupported assertion on your part.

At the speed of sound it takes about a third of a hour to cross the
S-400's range. Even at only 20 mph, the mobile launcher could move
off a mile to find cover in that time.

Therefore there are no current USAF platforms that can be effective in
this role and the best current alternative is an IRBM launched from a
SSGN.

What a laugh. It's been looked at and the cost per target is measured in
terms of % of GDP.

The cost is not the cost of destroying the target. It's the cost of
not being able to destroy the target so that the mission cannot be
even attempted.

What is the cost of allowing hostile powers to mark large regions of
the Earth as off-limits to the USAF?

The only aircraft that can do the job and be built in time is the
FB-22 "Hustler II". It's the only design that can be produced and
fielded BEFORE those next generation mobile SAM launchers, because it
borrows so many parts from the in-production F-22.

Another laugh. "The only aircraft that can do the job" ? FB-22 hasn't been
built so no one can make any claim about "doing the job". It's a concept
and nothing more. Vaporware.
LockMart will manage the program just like they did with the F-22, so it
would be 10 years behind schedule and > $1Billion over budget.

It would be better to run a competition. Competition is good. It makes
everyone perform better.

Any aircraft would suffer from cost and time overruns. The question
is which aircraft requires the least amount of development.

The RAM-HARM can be built for usage on the B-2 while the FB-22 is
under development. Like the Hustler, the Hustler II would be built
around one missile, but unlike it, it could also carry other arms.

-HJC
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