Re: Ping - Ed Rasimus - Can you cartwheel a Phantom ?

I'm late to the bar, just getting back from a trip That 'stick in the
forward corner, stomp on that rudder' is one of the Last-Ditch
maneuvers described by Boots Blesse in "No Guts, No Glory", his essay
on air to air combat. We all got a copy when we went through F86
training at Nellis. It's only to be used when there's no other way
out. What would an F4 do? It's a guess. I have had an F4 slice on me;
inverted, hawking my oppo, we're both very slow, and he's about 500
feet below. I was pushing forward on the stick to hover above him,
waiting for him to commit to something. . Our fuselages were aligned
until my bird suddenly decided to make a rapid level skidding turn of
about 90 degrees. I was startled and released some forward pressure
letting the nose drop and the AOA reduce to something reasonable. My
buddy was apparently just as startled for he dumped the nose to
extend, and that was all I needed to drop into trail about 800 feet
back.
FWIW History channel does a pretty good job most of the time
depicting the manuevers but now and then they do miss the boat. Forex
a fighter with its tail gone generally goes into a very rapid forward
tumble in which if there is any speed on the bird one or both wings
tear off. In the 'olden days' this could happen when the turbine wheel
disintegrated, a nasty habit of J47s in the F86D's early days.
Walt BJ
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