Re: Nazi flying saucers

Rob Arndt wrote:
On Nov 29, 2:51�pm, "CWatters" <colin.watt...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
"Robert LaCasse" <p...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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The footnote
describes German Saucers that were �forty five yards across, capable of
reaching speeds over Mach One
Yeah right. So why did they mess about with planes like the ME 163, 262 and
263?

Because the German disc craft, although highly maneuverable and very
fast, could not carry armament nor slow down to the speeds necessary
to engage enemy fighter nor bombers. Most were prototypes that relied
on exotic engine technology that filled the entire interior of the
machines and depended on a complex celestial guidance system to fly.
Others were private ventures or SS-sponsored that took most of the war
to develop that either failed or could only operate within certain
guidelines. None were connected to the RLM or to normal a/c
manufacturers with exception of BMW which made jet engines. Their BMW
Flugelrad designs were worked on at their Prague facility.
Schauberger's Repulsins were discoid motors only. Focke's
Schnellflugzeug Rochen remained a patent as Focke-Wulf was too busy
making Fw-190s to toy around with a VTOL turboshaft a/c. Sack's
AS-6V-1 was a private venture with authorization from Udet- he built
it in a garage by himself and it was transferred to Brandis for
testing. Due to center of gravity problems and improper gear placement
with an underpowered engine, it hopped but could not fly. Not bad,
however, as it was made from scraps of other aircraft and wood.
Coanda's lenticular disc was rejected due to the requirment for 12
Jumo 004s to power it.

The discs that did fly were SS Technical Branch machines built with co-
operation with the occult Thule and Vril Gesellschaften. The EMG
engines as stated above were quite exotic and took up all the interior
space. Both Vril and Haunebu designs were produced in small quantities
with no more than 17 of the Vril 1, about the same for the Vril 7. 1x
Vril 8, and only 7 Haunebus total from 1939-1945. That's 42 test a/c.
The huge Andromeda-Gerat Raumschiffen were only 2 prototypes under
construction and one was captured by the US Army on the ground
uncompleted in 1945. The second escaped to whereabouts unknown.

The mystery Foo Fighters were in fact 4 different weapons: the
earliest AEG Kugelwaffen mercury-plasma ball weapons used for psy-ops,
the WNF Feuerball (Fireball) ovoid craft with Messerschmitt
electrostatic discharge weapon (discovered at Oberammergau) for
attack, a decoy Luftwaffe Siefenblasen (Soap Bubbles) radar defeating
balloon based on the Kriegsmarine Aphrodita type, and the lone
Zeppelin-Werke Kugelblitz (Ball Lightning) manned disc fighter. The
Allies, due to confusion, lumped all of these into the same category
and were plagued by them in the ETO from Nov 1944- April 1945... then
a brief pause and they were in Japan in August 1945 as part of the
German technology transfers. Photos of them in Japan prior to 1945
were for training and also sent by ultra long-range a/c and U-boat.
There are several hundred reported incidents with these types, so they
were the only real German threat during the entire war. The records of
the 415th NFS and 20th & 21st BGs report "attacks" made by these craft
and their electrostatic effect on bomber engines and radar. They were
not toys in any sense.

Why did Germany and Japan not benefit from these? Because Berlin
ordered the SS to destroy theirs in April 1945 and the Japanese feared
the German weapons due to no visible propulsion system. The levitation
and fiery plasma discharges made the Japanese consider them demonic
and in the end they dynamited theirs after VJ-Day. Similarly, all disc-
fans were destroyed in Prague and Miethe's disc was probably destroyed
at Breslau. The Fleissner Dusenscheibe at Peenemunde was recalled to
Berlin and sent on a mission by April 24, 1945. Again unknown, but
Fleissner maintains it was deliberately destroyed.
The SS Technical Branch and Vril Gesellschaft started evacuation to
locations outside of the Reich in March 1945. Kammler disappeared with
the Bell Device shortly afterwards. Last dispatch from Berlin from the
Propaganda Ministry was to Tierra del Fuego, Argentina.

Doenitz was selected as second Fuhrer due to his knowledge of the
German disc technology, secret locations and transfers of that
technology outside of the Reich, and to use the U-boats to transfer
Reichsgeld assets for future Nazi usage. Over 50 U-boats vanished in
the spring of 1945 along with up to 250,000 Germans, the majority of
the SS Technical Branch, Kammler, and all traces of Vril. Argentina
absorbed a huge amount of Nazis even after the US and Britain coerced
that nation to declare war on Germany in March 1945. There is no
reason for this except to pursue Reich technology and financial assets
transferred out of Germany and pressure to discover what was going on
in Antarctica. Argentina made a claim right after Base 211 became
operational during the war in the Muhlig-Hoffmann mountains. Unusual
activity continued postwar in the region of Tierra del Feugo and in
Antarctic waters, suggesting that the Reich survived abroad and
underground for at least a decade later. Operation Highjump failed to
dislodge the Nazis and 3 nukes later detonated in the atmosphere above
the German base probably had little to no effect on the Nazis. The
missing Reichsbank gold and other monetary assets were shipped to
various locations and held for the Nazis.

Vril had long foreseen Hitler's demise and the Third Reich's collapse.
So they made a plan for a Fourth Reich in the far future. Hitler
outlawed secret societies in 1942, but Thule was absorbed by Vril and
was sheltered under the SS Technical Branch, Ahnenerbe, and the
Abwehr. Himmler conspired against Hitler and saw himself as a modern
Drighten Overlord that would control Germany once Hitler was removed
from power. That never happened. Himmler actually controlled interior
Germany and the occupied nations through the SS and Gestapo, but could
not prevent Hitler from ruining Germany with his political and
military decision-making. Canaris also plotted against Hitler and came
up with a Z-Plan (Zukunft, or Future Plan) with Vril for making sure
Reich technology and assets escaped to be used one day for a Fourth
Reich. Vril escaped, Canaris was killed. But all that technology and
money went missing. While fools searched every inch of Germany and
Austria for it, it had already been shipped out to Switzerland,
Argentina, and other locations for future usage.

There is so much classified technology and hidden history from the
Third Reich that we will probably never know the full truth about what
really went on until another half century. So many people are
brainwashed by the victors' version of history that the above may seem
sheer lunacy. But there is too much evidence to the contrary.

Rob


Aren't, your delusions are getting grander every day. If you believe any of what your wrote here, like the three "nukes," your grasp of reality is seriously beyond hope.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired
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