Re: 1945 Junkers Strategic Bomber

In message <1186444189.146013.174980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rob Arndt <teuton263@xxxxxxx> writes
On Aug 6, 10:29?am, Peter Twydell <pe...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In message <1186420364.818218.49...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rob
Arndt <teuton...@xxxxxxx> writes



>On Aug 6, 10:00?am, Peter Twydell <pe...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> In message <1186417149.820649.186...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rob
>> Arndt <teuton...@xxxxxxx> writes

>> >On Aug 5, 10:43?am, Scott Lowther
>> ><scottlowt...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> Rob Arndt wrote:
>> >> >On Aug 4, 1:07?pm, Scott Lowther <scottlowt...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >wrote:

>> >> >>Rob Arndt wrote:

>> >> >>>That Jets 45 site is just like Luftwaffe 46- a favorite >> >> >>>for
>> >> >>>people that like to think they discovered someplace special and that
>> >> >>>their newly aquired knowledge from those sites somehow >> >> >>>enables them to
>> >> >>>become an aviation elitist :)

>> >> >>>When I go to those sites, all I notice is everything ELSE that is
>> >> >>>MISSING from them ;)

>> >> >>Then by all means, please post the link to your website where >> >> >>
>> >> >>filled in all the blanks. Oh, and make sure to cite all your source
>> >> >>documentation.

>> >> >Since there are hundreds if not thousands of Luftwaffe paper projects
>> >> >it is more than obvious with his 100+ entries that Dan Johnson is way
>> >> >off

>> >> "Hundreds to thousands" is a vague and handwavy set. Enough so that a
>> >> set of "100+ entries" could well largely encompass the first set.

>> >> --
>> >> -------
>> >> The fact that I have no remedy for all the sorrows of the world is no
>> >>reason for my accepting yours. It simply supports the strong
>> >>probability that yours is a fake. - H.L. Mencken- Hide quoted text -

>> >> - Show quoted text -

>> >On the Luftwaffe 46 site itself anyone can read that Dan Johnson has
>> >posted 220 a/c there with 20 or so that are prototypes and
>> >expertimentals that really have nothing to do with paper projects. So
>> >that leaves approx. 200 a/c.

>> >On his own attempted master list of German projects, you only have to
>> >get to the second manufacturer (Blohm und Voss) before the number
>> >reaches 237 a/c (along with Arado). I didn't count the rest of his ref
>> >numbers, but he didn't finish with all the manufactuers and I don't
>> >believe he includes all versions or sub-variants of all projects.

>> >I guess he will catch up when he compiles all the information from
>> >Master's "German Jet Genesis", Miranda's "Reichsdream Dossiers", and
>> >the complete "Luftwaffe Secret Projects" book series. I am not making
>> >fun of Dan, I am serious- those seem to be the sources he is using as
>> >he is even scanning right out of the latter book series (which is in
>> >print). No doubt, when the new and improved versions come out this
>> >year with 40% more info, then the numbers will expand more.

>> >So, he is way off by hundreds to easily over 1,000 depending on how
>> >many versions and sub-variants one counts in the paper trail. Many of
>> >the paper projects had anywhere from 3-11 versions and variants. (Fw
>> >Ta 183 had 3 versions, Ar E.555 had 11)!

>> >This information is not trivial either as the accumulated captured
>> >German aerospace documents ran into the thousands of tons at Wright
>> >Field in 1946.

>> >And these are just the declassified "known" projects.

>> >Unlike Luftwaffe 46, my site deals with all German disc development
>> >and other aerial oddities that no one else has. Furthermore, I am
>> >pretty sure that I alone have all the projects known as the former 8
>> >famous disc writers from 1955-present only have a combined 2/3rds of
>> >my book.

>> >Sorry, but those are the facts.

>> >Rob

>> How many times do you have to be told that nobody but you cares how many
>> posts you have made? It's getting very boring.
>> --
>> Peter

>> Ying tong iddle-i po!- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>Peter,

>Who cares what you think?

One or two people have said complimentary things about me in the past.
Your opinion of what I post isn't worth very much.

One or two people? What a joke. I have had hundreds of people
compliment me on my site refs, pics, answers to their questions.
etc... over the 9 years I've been here. It would seem that your
comments are even less significant by comparison :)

There you go again, waving your willy about, claiming it's bigger than anyone else's.

>BTW, NOBODY tells me what to do here.

Oh, stop stamping your foot! I'm not telling you what to do, just making
an observation. Sensible people have been known to take note of what
others say and modify their behaviour accordingly.

So, you let others dictate your behavior on a regular basis? Ok then,
Peter... would you kindly jump off a bridge?

Your comprehension matches your arrogance.

>I'll post anything I please and my comments to Scott Lowther were
>appropriate- a measured response.

No surprise there as far as the first part of the sentence is
concerned..

No, he challenged me and I answered back. What I said was true. Mr.
Space NG Guy is not going to come into my NG and tell me about all the
a/c I have posted on in 9 years vs his stupid sketches of lately and
his poor attempt to solicit APR sales.

Your comprehension matches your arrogance.

>You deal with people who attack your posts, and I will take care of my
>end.

As far as I can remember, the only person who has attacked me is you.

Then you haven't been on this NG long enough or else post very little.
All the vets have been slammed by someone. And this is Usenet which is
synonomous with abuse ;)


True, I do post comparatively little. I don't have time to sit at a keyboartd for hours on end nor do the book research required. I only post when I feel I have something to contribute.

What a miserable view of the world. I did say 'As far as I can remember'. There other news groups in which I have had heated exchanges, but they usually don't qualify as attacks IMO.

>Rob




--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!
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