Re: Me-262 HG.III Art- Correct Depiction, Gordon?

On Jul 10, 1:13?am, Gordon <Gor...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 10, 12:19 am, Rob Arndt <teuton...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





On Jul 9, 11:58?pm, Gordon <Gor...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:30 pm, Rob Arndt <teuton...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/green/wave/hg3.jpg

Rob

That's the day fighter proposal, not the one that was under
construction at the end (the three-seat nightfighter). Really good
art tho.

Which one was ready to fly and was struck by another a/c landing? Was
that the nachtjaeger?*

* that's the story I read on one of the forums. That the HG.III was
ready to fly and was in an accident with another a/c- that is why it
was damaged. You keep saying it was under construction, but they say
it was completed. I have no valid ref for either.

Rob

Like the B-2a, there were ULTRA decrypts that reported to higher
authority that construction was nearing completion. In both cases,
there was no trace of the airframe when the war ended only a couple
weeks later. I've never seen anything from a German source suggesting
that the HG III was struck by another aircraft.

The only thing I know about the fate of the B-2a is that the factory
building suffered a bomb strike during a raid, but the report at that
time said the airframe would be repaired.

As for the HG III, there are far more stories than documents! I only
know of a couple drawings (one that I sent you), a list of electronic
equipment that was approved by the RLM, and the ULTRA intercepts
concerning its mockup and construction progress, which are very few.
The trail goes cold, just like the B-2a, until the HG III "shape" was
used to test a captured German wind tunnel months after the war
ended.

I would love to know if the US aircraft manufacturer's team that was
taken to that factory included anyone from Grumman, because there are
really too many points of similarity between Panthers and Cougars to
the day proposal for the HG III for sheer coincidence. I talked with
a project engineer on Heineman's design team (closed out his career
working on the F-22) last week that was one of the men sent to
Germany in this program - he said a Boeing guy on his team helped
bring back the swept wing research that formed the basis for the B-47
and other projects. People will disagree, but the fact remains that
the Allies denuded the fallen Reich of anything remotely usable,
including all of its aviation secrets.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have read part of the new book "Brotherhood of the Bell" which is by
the same author of "Reich of the Black Sun". While he gets into some
very wild claims for German technology, his second books provides much
new information and documentation on German air and space technology.
He claims that the Lippisch supersonic delta is NOT a seperate a/c
design but actually was the final design of the P.13 complete with
coal-fired ramjet and that the aircraft was constructed in the US in
1946 and flown secretly. He provides the schematics and refs along
with photos of the Peenemunde bundled rocket designs with claims that
a larger rocket than the V-2 was test fired in March 1945 using five
V-2s as the bundle around a larger core rocket. He then shows the
entire Soviet rocket design progression and use of the Peenemunde
bundled rocket basic configuration (which the French use too). His
book even shows early Luftwaffe proto-transistors and claims Germany
tested an over the horizon radar during the war. I haven't gotten that
far but much of the book deals with really advanced technology like
the Siemens X-ray laser and all the anti-gravity machinery, mercury-
ion propulsion, and suggestions for what the Bell device was. I will
refrain from getting into that conspiracy theory for now.

Anyway, the US and Soviets used a hell of a lot more German technology
than they acknowledge or what is in print right now using the old
information.

But regarding the HG.III, it is sad to think that maybe it was
involved in an air accident and was scrapped- and that is why there
are no photos :(

Perhaps, it was reduced to crushed metal in a scrapyard and overlooked
by US troops.

Is there any possibility that both a day and night version were both
built?

Rob

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