Re: Nat. Guard (air and army) short of equipment

In article <brbml1hoq7e7p5u4ajjbkvi8md9mpph50d@xxxxxxx>,
on Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:40:49 GMT,
Omega omega.d21@xxxxxxxxx attempted to say .....

> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 05:40:28 GMT, Tank Fixer <paul.deekat.carrier@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
> |> |> |> NG Short of Equipment at Home
> |> |> |> Associated Press | October 21, 2005
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> WASHINGTON - Army National Guard units are short of equipment at home
> |> |> |> partly because they have been told to leave such vital items as armored
> |> |> |> Humvees in Iraq for replacement troops, congressional investigators say.
> |> |> |>
> |> |>
> |> |> What has been happening was that units would deploy, get their Humvees up
> |> |> armored, finish their tour, have the equipment sent back to the states then take
> |> |> the armor off. Now they are just stripping the equipment from the Guard, who
> |> |> has been determined as not really needing the most modern equipment (the Guard
> |> |> does a good job of getting Congress to give them stuff at the expense of the
> |> |> active forces).
> |> |
> |> |So much BS.
> |>
> |> This has been the general pattern for most units going over. It is also the
> |> reason that so many units lack the armor as it is being taken off vehicles then
> |> shipped back to Iraq. It is easier, as the article mentioned, to just have the
> |> Guard leave their vehicles in Iraq.
> |
> |Units have been leaving up-armored equipment for some time now.
> |And bringing back everything else..
> |None of my states units brought any up-armored vehicles back.
>
>
> and then why is it being reported (MSM and military outlets like Military.com
> and Army Times) that armor has to be shipped back from the states?

Maybe they got it wrong ?
They are just journalists.



> |> |> Look for the Guard to get either a combat support mission (CSB units) or MP
> |> |> missions. Plus Intel slots. In many cases, the Intel work means no need of
> |> |> vehicles and such.
> |> |
> |> |Funny, since I am currently working on the transformation of half the units in
> |> |my state.
> |> |And none are changing from combat arms to MP or CS/CSS units.
> |>
> |> So you are 100% infantry/armor (BCT)? No CSB? No CAB?
> |
> |Almost.
> |
> |1 Light BCT, a heavy BN for a heavy BCT in two neighboring states, a modular
> |engineer BN plus an assortment of separate companies.
>
> So 2 states? What about Michigan which only has a brigade and half which is
> being told to convert to MPs? Or IL which lost most of it Air Wings and really
> has only CSB units? Indiana only has one IBCT (SIB) and the rest are being
> converted to CSB units. Ohio, Miss, LA and many other states as well.

Three states, Oregon, Idaho and Montana.

> Again, your scope of vision is really limited.

No, it seems that perhaps your is.
Care to give me a few units names that are doing as you claim ?

Are you trying to say that Louisiana and Mississippi are converting to CS/CSS
units ?

Since both those states have Enhanced brigades that will convert to BCT's as
they redeploy.


> |> And is yours the ONLY state in the union? Or is it atypical?
> |
> |No, it is what is happening to states across the country as they redeploy units
> |from the theater(s).

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