Re: Radio Call Entering Holding
- From: "Bob Gardner" <bobmrg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:58:06 -0700
I have noticed over the years that many pilots assume that the controller is watching their data block like a hawk, ready to pick up any error, diversion, or navigational situation. Tain't so. Once the controller has transmitted the holding instructions and you have acknowledged them, he or she assumes that you are going to carry them out and switches to watching other traffic. Speak up.
Bob Gardner
"Dennis Johnson" <pinetownd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:K4CdnZ1v4L2M3ZzanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
With help from the people on this newsgroup, I'm happy to announce that I passed my IPC!
One thing that came up on my flight was that I didn't announce that I was entering holding and my altitude.
The 2006 AIM 5-3-3 a. 1. (f) requires reporting to ATC, whether in radar contact or not, "The time and altitude...upon reaching a holding fix..."
However, the FAA's "Instrument Flying Handbook" FAA-H-8083-15, dated 2001, says on page10-8 that a report entering holding is not required if in radar contact.
Obviously, they contradict each other. I told the instructor pilot that I had chosen to go with the "Instrument Flying Handbook" version and not make a report to ATC because it seemed to me that if I was in radar contact, the controller would see it happening.
So, what do you think? Which FAA book is wrong? Why does the controller need reminding that I'm entering holding when I'm in radar contact?
Thanks,
Dennis
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