Re: Change spark plug

aarcuda69062 <nonelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In article <dqa47v$a9g$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Edward Strauss <es8m@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > So why haven't you suggest them instead of trying to be a preacher?
> <clear old text>
> > Not knowing what tools he has or can borrow the cost could be zero.
> > Don't know his skill.
> > You don't know any of this either.

> Look Ed, that's at least the second time in this thread that
> you've answered your own question.

Nope, It is the second time you choose to write this.



> > > It will reduce the time for the experienced also.
> > > Are you at all familiar with the space constraints involved here
> > > or are you just parroting what the others with sketchy
> > > recollections have said?
> >
> > I know about the space issue

> Were that the truth, you'd have made a specific recommendation
> other than "a longer socket."

And did you tell him how to use your magic tool?
You must be very bored.

> > and am completely aware of people who like to
> > talk an issue to death instead of actually doing it.

> Interesting, referring to yourself in the third person...


Whats interested is you still talking the issue to death.

> > > Only if it's a good idea. remember, you recommended tha he buy a
> > > longer spark plug socket. Newsflash, he isn't likely to find it
> > > at Sears, Ace Hardware, Home Depot, Lowes or anywhere else
> > > besides a tool truck.
> >
> >
> > I did not recommend he buy anything.

> Normally, when someone doesn't have something, they need to
> purchase it. Borrowing a tool would have been self evident to
> the OP if he had that option.

I take it as being that the OP wanted advice. You have never borrowed anything?
Are you claimging to know the state of mind of the OP?

> > I gave my opinion on what I would do.

> Except that he obviously didn't have that option.

And you were there?

> > Do you always make stuff up as you go along? I guess it's easier for you to
> > generate words this way...

> You gonna cry now?

Keep generating.

> > > As you said, buy a longer spark plug socket, the likely candidate
> > > costing around $25.00, and he'll still have just 1/4" space to
> > > manipulate it in. What fun!
> >
> > You should buy him one since you are the one making this part up.

> I see. In your world, these things just fall out of the sky.
> or, are you claiming that I'm making the 1/4 inch part up?
> Careful now, I took those measurements off a late model Jimmy
> yesterday morning.

Nothing to be careful of in any shape or form.


> Sorry Ed, arguing semantics isn't putting you ahead.


I'm not aware that points are being awarded.


> > > Yes "magic tool."
> > > Just so you know, a standard length 5/8" spark plug socket is
> > > 2 3/8" long, once maneuvered onto the #3 spark plug (with two
> > > fingers if lucky) the hex end will be below the level of the heat
> > > shield that surrounds the left side exhaust manifold, meaning
> > > that it's worthless for getting a wrench on and since there is
> > > only .700 inch space out to the steering shaft, ratchet and
> > > breaker bar are out also. The next longer available 5/8" spark
> > > plug socket is 2 7/8" long and -does- project the hex outside the
> > > heat shield, -but- he'll have to break the spark plug off to get
> > > it on because of the lack of clearance to the steering shaft,
> > > which means he won't be able to use it to install the new plug.
> > > Catch-22, obvious to anyone who's ever worked on an S chassis
> > > with a 4.3.
> >
> > Why do you even bother writing this nonsense? Plugs have been removed and
> > installed
> > on these vehicles for years now. If you don't know how to do it say so.

> Indeed they have. Your method probably wasn't an option for him
> since he didn't have a longer socket, the other options went
> unmentioned by you once you became involved in raising the signal
> to noise ratio, so I strongly suspect that you have no other
> solutions to offer.


Your solution is to post a link. Is that what the OP asked for?


> > Making believe
> > that it cannot be done except for you way is quite sad.

> Go ahead, tell him how to do it with the socket he has on hand.
> It's quite simple you know...


And what socket does he have?


> > > Ed, don't confuse the fact that I didn't reply to your half baked
> > > solution to my not having read it. You suggested a "longer than
> > > stock spark plug socket." Okay, where does he get one? What
> > > manufacturer? What part number?

> <sound of crickets chirping>


They make medicine for that.


> > > Seems to me he could have easily wasted as much time or more
> > > chasing around looking for a socket that likely isn't available
> > > as common stock as he would ordering the special tool from
> > > Snap-On.
> > > Either way, he's going to spend money which is (strangely) what
> > > YOU recommended and are also carping about.
> > > Oh, BTW, the only correct information in your first reply was
> > > that the engine is not a transverse mount. A factoid that the OP
> > > probably already knew.
> >
> >
> > He will only spend money if he wants to.

> Shame it took this long for you to finally 'get it.'


More opinion, he probably got his plugs in by now...


> > > And I'd say it's safe to assume that he would like them to
> > > function better than the old ones and he'd prefer keeping blood
> > > loss to a minimum.
> >
> > More opinion. I don't think you know what his goal is.

> Really? I thought his goal was quite clearly stated in his
> original post.


His goal was to get as much info as possible on his problem. People ask questions on
newsgroups usually to get more than one opinion.


> > > Not being prepared and having the tools and skills is -his-
> > > problem. McDonalds mentality at it's finest, I want it now damn
> > > it!
> > > Looks like he as two choices; order the/a tool and spend about
> > > the same as your recommendation or;
> > > Learn to think past the end of his nose and replace the spark
> > > plug with what he has on hand.
> >
> >
> > Or if he wants to spend $30.00 and get the job done fast I don't expect
> > it will be very hard to find someone to put one plug in for $30.00.

> So, your solution is to open the Yellow Pages?
> Ah yes, the sweet smell of back pedal.


That was not in my original reply to the OP. You just might be running out of words.

>
> > This problem has been around longer than you think.

> This is rich...

So is Snap-On.


> > Over 20 years ago
> > people use to cry about putting plugs in V8 Monzas.

> Yes, yes Ed. Did that job many times while those vehicles were
> under warranty/past warranty. Don't remember the crying part
> though since V-8 Monzas were not all -that- difficult.

Neither are Blazers.

> > The same short,
> > bent 5/8 box end wrenches that worked on them work fine now.

> It's probably a safe bet that the OP doesn't have any "short bent
> 5/8 box wrenches either, or he wouldn't have posted his question.
> <duh>
> And what's up with the story change?


How would you know what he has? The only story involved is the one you drag out.
The Op already got my opinion. What is your story?

> > Using Google
> > you might even find a special tool for them...

> Why Google? I already pointed him to the special tool.
> Good god, you're thick.


Hmm... A person asks for help you give them a link. I'll be "thick" anyday...
.

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