Re: help! 1997 Hyundai Accent, gear grinding


"fweddybear" <fweddybear@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "bri j" <her.ghost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Someone from rec.autos.driving sent me here - so this is crossposted:
> >
> > I just bought a 1997 Hyundai Accent (5 speed/manual trans, 136k miles)
> > and it's got a few kinks (as I expected, with that many miles). I'd
> > like to have a better idea of what's going on before heading to the
> > mechanic, although that's coming up soon.
> >
> > First, third gear grinds, going in and out. There are some exceptions -
> > at slower speeds you can ease it into gear, and completely letting off
> > of the gas seems to make shifting smoother (no tachometer, I'm assuming
> > this lowers the rpm). This only happens with third gear.
> >
> > Second, the first time we took the car out and drove it hard, when we
> > got on the interstate, hitting 55-65 mph, there was a lot of bluish
> > smoke. Haven't noticed any since that time. Doesn't seem to burn oil,
> > but we haven't really been driving it enough (have had a spot of bad
> > weather) to notice a minor oil leak.
> >
> > Third, after driving for a bit, there is usually a weird smell from the
> > front/driver's side area of the engine - haven't noticed it anywhere
> > else but you can't miss it, either, when you step out of the driver's
> > side. I don't think it smells like oil burning but I could be wrong,
> > boyfriend thought it smelled like clutch (possibly caused by the
> > grinding/third gear?).
> >
> > I've been told that the grinding gear is a sign of bad synchronizing
> > rings in the transmission - if this is true, is the only option a new
> > trans or to rebuild?
> >
> > Any advice/help would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> ok.. .sounds like if you just bought it, you will need to take it back
> there and have them fix it. Unless you bought it from a private party.
If
> this is the case, if you have proper fluid level in the slave cylinder,
and
> you have correct pressure, then the synchro is shot in that gear....
> As far as the bluish smoke.... well it may not have gotten alot of
> highway driving and may just needed that to open things up a bit... on the
> other hand, you may be in need of a valve/ring job soon...
> As far as the third problem.. that is kind hard to tell.... you might
> want to get under the car to see if it is leaking anything.... and
whatever
> it is, may be getting hot or on the exhaust and causing that smell...
>
> As far as advise.... hmmmmmmmm... well all i can say is that you might
> have wanted to bring your boyfriend along when you bought this car.... it
> sounds like it is in need of alot of work.. more than it will ever be
> worth......if you go in and repair the synchro... you might as well
rebuild
> the tranny while you are there... its a one time cost, the job will be
done
> well enough to where you will not have to keep giong back to fix it.

That's a waste of money. I've had manuals with shot synchros on them last
for years. Just keep doing what your doing with letting up on the gas when
shifting in and out of 3rd. Eventually it will break completely and then
you
can probably find one out of a wrecked car somewhere. The previous
owner was probably not completely disengaging the clutch when shifting.

....then
> there is the blue smoke... if it continues... then you are looking at a
> valve/ring job...in fact i would check the compression in your cylinders
to
> see if it is in fact that or not....thats another costly repair job....

Another money waster. Just keep an eye on the oil level, if it's not
losing more than a quart every 1000 miles, this is another repair you can
put off to infinity. Unless it's smoking all of the time, it's leaking oil
seals on the valves and it's going to be cheaper to just keep putting oil in
it.

> Soooooo..... is this a car you want to keep or just have for
> transportation for a while?? if yo uwanna keep it.. then get the work
> done... but you may be headed for a cacth 22 where you are dumping money
in
> the thing and not getting your moneys worth out of it...

No way. On a Hyundai? Those are throwawy cars and she bought one
that probably has about 50K miles remaining in it, tops. She just needs to
keep gently driving it, keep the oil level correct, and in 3-4 years when
she's extracted the remaining mileage out of it and it stops running, donate
it to the Kidney foundation.

> You may also want to consider buying another car.. i know that sounds
> crazy, but give it some thought... you may be spending 2 grand in
repair...
> and you would have ths same car (with the 136,000) miles on it... I am
sure
> you can find a different car for that kind of money with less miles on it
> and in better condition....

I work with a guy who specializes in driving old $300 beaters. He never
spends
more than $400 for a used car and never puts money into repair. He looks
specifically for ones that have body damage and good powertrain since those
are undervalued for what he wants, and they tend not to get stolen. He just
keeps oil in them and maybe will replace a battery, and drives them until
they stop
running.

His cost-per-mile is way cheaper than anyone else that I know of including
myself.

If you can tolerate driving around in a piece of shit, that is by far the
cheapest way to go. This girl obviously can, or she wouldn't have bought
a Hyundai. Myself, I can't do it - since I know how to fix things, it bugs
the piss out of me to look around the inside of my car and see something
wrong, I can't stand not fixing it.

Ted


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