Re: $ 4.25 gasoline - whine


"a425couple" <a425couple@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Hu-dnTEy09U5nHnanZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@xxxxxxx> wrote
(from his follow-up)

I ain't certainly no political scientist
That is for sure.
Nor are you even a decent student of economy.
Actually, this post of your's is more a very limited quality
populist whine.

If you wish to start learning, I'd suggest on www,
try google - wiki -for below:
Adam Smith and unseen hand
supply and demand
Capitalism
Capitalist Rockerfeller,
Capitalist Henry Ford
Capitalist George Weyerhauser
Capitalist Vanderbilt
Populism
Free Enterprise

inexpensive useful books
-"The Millionaire Next Door", Stanley and Danko
-"Rich Dad, Poor Dad", Robert Kiyosaki
-"The Wealthy Barber", David Chilton
-"Who Moved My Cheese?", Spencer Johnson
(bet your library has them, or better, buy used for
$5-8 each, read, underline, keep, and re-read)

Doesn't the oil still come out of the ground for free just like it did in
Henry Ford's day?

What in the world makes you think any of above is true?
There were very limited quanity 'springs'.
When found to be useful, and product started to be used,
price went up, as did the costs of finding, accessing,
refining, and delivering to users.
Most were inefficient and wasteful.
Rockerfeller put into effect big efficencies.
The cost to the consumers dropped.

And by similar method.
Automobiles were rare, handmade, and expensive.
Henry Ford figured out better efficencies, cost per
auto dropped, even better efficiencies, more drop.
Yes, the workings of the market did let them become
wealthy - but only because they were delivering what
the consumers of the market wanted - at a better price!

What is this $ 4.25 all about?
Don't you just love big businesspeople?

Are you willing to pay a lot more so you can
buy a product from a "small" business person?

So you may say, "hey, smartass, if you think it is that simple just buy
some
shares in Exxon." But if a person is a small investor the service fees
are
greater than any potential profit.

Are you really that limited??
Try Fidelity. Select - Energy

So the big businesspeople have you coming and going.
The MBA types and the banker types and the Wall Street types have pretty
much wiped out the middle class over the last twenty or thirty years,
haven't they? I hope they choke on their private jets and their yachts
and
their mansions but I fear that they will not and their kids are going to
go
on to make it even worse over the next twenty or thirty years.

Unless a young person today is some sort of entertainer or some sort of
athlete they make as well just find a rope and hang themselves.

My 'young people' are doing just fine, thank you.
They, like me, never got fed from any silver spoon,
but learned you have to view the world, and look to
constantly improve themselves and be useful.



I was just trying to be funny with my populist rant, like Dennis Miller. Gold and diamonds come out of the ground for free also but they are far from free if you want some.

Four dollar gasoline is just going to be a fact but that is still hard on people who do not earn a huge salary when this whole country is built around the automobile. When was the last time you saw an ad for a bicycle that gets infinite miles per gallon or a motor scooter that gets seventy miles per gallon on the teevee? It is sort of inefficient to use a two ton vehicle to transport one person so I did my part for the ecology by buying a small motorcycle to commute to work and ride around when I do not intend to pick up any bulky stuff. So I have the choice of getting about twenty-three miles per gallon in a Ford Escape or about fifty-six miles per gallon on a Kawasaki KLR650 or infinite miles per gallon by either walking or staying home. I am lucky to have those choices but it is sort of necessary to have children so we do not go extinct and adults with children do not have those choices. They are forced by the way our country is built to go around in a medium sized or large four wheel vehicle and when the cost of gasoline doubles they get hurt in a very real way.

This is still a land of opportunity and people who have a good mind and good parents can still make all of the right decisions can end up with a splendid lifestyle. But the odds of all of that happening seem to be getting smaller with each passing year.

I have two ideas that I think are practical and would not cost too much. My first idea is to start a program where a high school graduate can join up for "public service" outside of the military and for each year they serve they get two years of college paid for in terms of tuition and books and fees but not room and board. ROTC is sort of the same thing but the military life is not for everyone. So maybe some kid spends two years rebuilding stuff in Mississippi and Louisana and then get four years of college tuition and books and fees paid for.

My other idea revolves around the student loan program. A student can borrow whatever they need for their course of study and then eventually they get out of school and go to work. But they owe a ton of money that they have to pay back and if they pay it all back they get a tax exemption for the entire amount, including interest, that they can use in any tax year in any amount until they use it all up.

For example, a student has to borrow 150,000 dollars to stay in school. So eventually they get out and go to work. The payments, with interest, turn out to be 225,000 dollars. So that person can take a 25,000 deduction against their earned income for the next nine years. Or they can just "bank it" until they have a real high income year and take the entire amount in one year. Not a tax credit mind you, a tax deduction. The cost of this would obviously be the percentage of taxes they owe when they take the deduction.

I do not believe that anyone is entitled to free gasoline or free higher education but I also do not believe that either one should be a back breaker.

.

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