Re: Loomis or Gordan?


"Speeed Racer!" <wedontneedanysteenkingreplys@huh?.com> wrote in message
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> > "Daniel" <sabot120mm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > Somebody. wrote:
> > > > "Daniel" <sabot120mm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > >
> > > > > Michael E wrote:
> > > > > > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > > > > Has it crossed anyone's mind that Gordo may just be washed up?
> > I'm
> > > > not
> > > > > > > trying to incite a flame war here I'm being very serious.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If that is the case, wouldn't this take longer than one season
to
> > occur
> > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe, maybe not.
> > > > >
> > > > > > After all, he accumulated the most points of any other driver
last
> > year.
> > > > >
> > > > > No he didn't, Kurt Busch did.
> > > >
> > > > LOL.
> > > >
> > > > How can I express the fact regarding the total number of points that
> > were
> > > > awarded to him based on each week's race finish without considering
> the
> > 3000
> > > > point chase gift, being higher than any other driver, in such a way
> that
> > you
> > > > will agree with it? It's a fact, not an opinion. Please tell me so
> we
> > can
> > > > stop having this stupid argument that we already had. I'm trying to
> > compare
> > > > relative performance, not titles.
> > >
> > >
> > > Simple, stop with the illusion that princess jeffy scored the most
> > > points, because the trophy ain't in his house. Get over it.
> >
> > No, you get over it. It just burns your ass doesn't it? He scored
better
> > than anybody else over the whole year. He didn't win the championship,
> > didn't deserve to with chase points system in place. KB won it fair and
> > square. See, I'm over that. I accepted it the day it was decided. But
> you
> > can't even *admit* that JG was awarded more race-finish points than KB.
> You
> > can't even acknowledge it. That's sooo sad for you. Funny too. But
> mostly
> > sad. So keep telling me it's my problem, that I can look at more than
one
> > way to measure a driver, and you can't.
> >
> > In your world, you must be *very* impressed that Ryan Newman has scored
> > *twice* as many points as Casey Mears so far this year. Wow, what a
> > dominant performance! In only 26 races, that's more than winning with
the
> > most laps lead and Casey finished last every single race... in fact
Casey
> > must have skipped starting a few! And RN is only in 10th! Since there
is
> > only 1 way to measure drivers in your world, chase points, that must all
> be
> > true, huh?
> >
> > LOL.
> >
> >
> > > Wrong. Go back earlier in the season and last, and you will find
> > > princess jeffy saying publicly that he has lost some of his focus.
> >
> > After 10 of his friends and teammates were killed, and his divorce.
Those
> > events are passed, I think he is very focused right now. But I'll
conceed
> > that one on that basis. If the driver has lost his focus, he might
still
> do
> > ok with good equipment. Put badly missed setups under him, and all the
> > focus in the world isn't going to produce the 20% -ish winning
percentage
> > that the 24 bunch is used to.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > The fact remains that he will not win another championship.
> > > >
> > > > Prognosticating cannot be "fact". Some day it may turn out to be.
> > Right
> > > > now, it's your opinion.
> > >
> > >
> > > keep telling yourself that.
> >
> > From webster.com: FACT
> >
> >
> > Main Entry: fact
> > Pronunciation: 'fakt
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: Latin factum, from neuter of factus, past participle of
facere
> > 1 : a thing done: as a obsolete : FEAT b : CRIME <accessory after the
> fact>
> > c archaic : ACTION
> > 2 archaic : PERFORMANCE, DOING
> > 3 : the quality of being actual : ACTUALITY <a question of fact hinges
on
> > evidence>
> > 4 a : something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a
> fact>
> > b : an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
> > 5 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality
> > - in fact : in truth
> >
> >
> > Hmm, your "fact" doesn't match any of those. Let's see...
> >
> > From webster.com: PROGNOSTICATION
> >
> > Main Entry: prog7nos7ti7ca7tion
> > Pronunciation: (")prdg-"nds-t&-'kA-sh&n
> > Function: noun
> > 1 : an indication in advance : FORETOKEN
> > 2 a : an act, the fact, or the power of prognosticating : FORECAST b :
> > FOREBODING
> >
> >
> > Main Entry: prog7nos7ti7cate
> > Pronunciation: prdg-'nds-t&-"kAt
> > Function: transitive verb
> > Inflected Form(s): -cat7ed; -cat7ing
> > 1 : to foretell from signs or symptoms : PREDICT
> > 2 : PRESAGE
> > synonym see FORETELL
> >
> > Seems like a much better match to what you said.
> >
> > I know you want your prognostication to be fact. Perhaps, one day it
> will.
> > In my *opinion* (see, I'm not so full of myself that I think I am the
> > all-seeing eye and my prognostication is therefore a fact) you are
> incorrect
> > and he will win at least 1 more Cup. You're entitled to your own
opinion.
> > Represeneting it as "fact" only shows your own ignorance.
> >
> > Perhaps I should also include OPINION:
> > Main Entry: opin7ion
> > Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin opinion-,
> opinio,
> > from opinari
> > 1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a
particular
> > matter b : APPROVAL, ESTEEM
> > 2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive
> > knowledge b : a generally held view
> > 3 a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert b : the
> formal
> > expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and
> > principles upon which a legal decision is based
> > - opin7ioned /-y&nd/ adjective
> >
> > Your "opinion" about JG's chances of winning another cup, is duly noted.
> >
> > Have a great day.
> >
> > -Russ.
> >
> > Russ,
>
> You did a commendable job in trying to inform to idiot Dan, but alas, it
> sometimes is impossible to inform the uninformed.
>
>
> Michael E

If it doesn't work this time (certain) I'll just have to let it go in the
next thread it turns up in, and continue that with people that can measure a
driver by more than one objective statistic.

-Russ,


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