Re: Todt critical of Vatanen's FIA campaign

Bob Dubery wrote:

On Oct 15, 4:45 pm, "Bigbird" <Bigbird.usenetNOS...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bob Dubery wrote:

I suspect only you would put that interpretation on that simple
sentence. It conveys no such intent. There were two letters from two
different people. To put your interpretation on that indicates that
you believe it conceivable. Something I hadn't considered.
I think you need to look again at how you expressed that point. It
might help if you thought about the meaning of "and" as is in "Max and
Todt".

Max *and* Todt both wrote letters. The letters referred to as the
letters written buy Todt and Max. To find that ambiguous you would
first have to think be thinking in terms of co-authorship.

You clearly were.

It's not unreasonable to construe that post in the way that I
have.

It is indeed very unreasonable to construe it as the most likely or
even a likely meaning IMO.

It also seems a bit weaselish, a bet "Brendan-ish" if you like, to
start saying that because I asked you if you meant what you appeared
to be saying that the suspicion must lie with me and not with you.

No it isn't. You saw something which isn't there. There is likely a
reason for that. You making an assumption whether subconsciously or
otherwise which draws you to that meaning being in any way ambiguous.


However, now you bring it up it is pretty clear that Max and Todt
are far from independent in their actions. What has Todt reaction
to Max threatening clubs been? It has in effect been done in his
name.



Is that what you were saying? Because it doesn't fit well with
you now saying that you can't answer questions about wether
letters were co- authored.

Yet you still feel the need to ask rather than accept your mistake?
I've asked for clarification. You may have made a mistake. You
certainly seem a bit coy about what exactly you were trying to say.


Rubbish. I'm sure it is quite clear to all but you the simple meaning
of that sentence, which I have already explained but since you are
being particularly obtuse will do so again in order to hopefully put an
end to your nonsense.

"These latest letters, one from Todt and another from Max..."

I stand by my previous syntax as having the same interpretation and in
no way indicating co-authorship to anyone who is aware that both have
written letters or who has read the article.

Your interpretation is bizarre.


I'm sure that Todt has written to clubs stating reasons why he
doesn't think Vatanen is a good candidate.

Is the letter not evidence?
You've seen it have you? I'm sure that both he and Vatanen have been
in contact with the member clubs, and I'm sure that they've both
suggested reasons why you should vote for the one and not the other. I
don't see that as being proof of anything other than that they've
stated their position, and I certainly have no idea about the exact
wording of those communications. If you want to put it forward as
evidence of something then I hope you've seen what was in the letters.

You really are making a monstrous hash of this.

You are countering my impression based on things that have reportedly
been said and actually quoted with what you think or expect may have
been said.

That is not the way to convince anyone.

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Bigbird
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