Re: Alonso confirmed at Ferrari

"Paul-B" <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:7ii0k1F2vvdouU1
@mid.individual.net:

ric zito wrote:

Paul-B <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why? You're glad Fred is ditching a team which has been very
good to him and which he will now have dumped twice?

How odd!

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Paul-B

Yeah, you've always have comprehension difculties, pablito

JJBoulas

I notice you can't refute what I posted.

Well, I refuted it in another post and you didn't answer...

Here's my quote :
"So every driver that ever leaves a team "dumps" it? That's a bit
extreme isn't it? Plus, in both cases, ->McLaren and ->Ferrari, he's
given huge advance notice of intent, a year or more, and yet kept his
commitment level at 100% during that year. I don't think it's fair to
call that dumping."

Why do you have to slag off Fred in those terms when in reality like
any other driver he's simply "leaving" or "changing" teams? Is
Barrichello "dumping" Brawn? Is Rosberg "ditching" Williams? etc etc.

There's a difference, ric, as you should know.

Firstly, show me where I've said that every driver that leaves a team
dumps it. You can't because I haven't.

Now, let's talk about Fred. Renault took him on board, gave him a car
which he could take and make himself a World Champion. I take it you
don't dispute that? So what does he do? Takes the big bucks and takes
his number 1 to McLaren... no loyalty to his old team, notice?

Thigs go wrong at McLaren, for whatever reason (I really don't care
whether it was his fault, Lewis' fault, Ron's fault, whatever). But
they give him a car capable of winning the World Championship. During
that journey he has problems, what does he do? Stick with the team and
try and sort things out? No, he dumps them and crawls back to the team
which gave him a huge leg-up to start with.

Now instead of sticking with Renault and trying to repay some of what
they've invested in him he dumps them again and runs away to the Glory
team.

And in answer to your last paragraph, no, Barrichello isn't dumping
Brawn, rather the other way around, if indeed Barrichello is leaving
Brawn. As for Rosberg, I don't know the ins and outs of it. Is he
leaving team Willy, if so who made the decision, him or Frank/Patrick?
So I really can't comment there.

Personally I don't give a damn who Fred drives for as long as he stays
in F1, but I stand by my assertions stated.

And don't put words into my mouth (which you seem to do wheneve I post
something you disagree with). Once again, either show me where I've
said, or even implied, that every driver that leaves a team dumps it,
or keep that sort of comment to yourself.

Oh Paul this is a just another stick for you to beat Alonso and the
Tifosi with rather than celebrating a very talented driver arriving at
the most evocative team in motor racing. You consider it dumping if you
don't like the driver or team he's going to presumably. Your internal
logic is constructed in a process of reverse engineering to match the
image you'd prefer us to have of you. But we've all seen this a little
too much to accept that.

By your logic then Schumacher's loyalty particularly early on with
Ferrari should see you crowing his merits from the rooftops.

Take a laxative :)

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CatharticF1

"What you thought was freedom is just greed."

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