Re: OT Web Design
- From: "Charles @ Kankakee" <n5hsr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:58:35 -0500
"Remco" <whybcuz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Charles @ Kankakee wrote:
>> "remco" <whybcuzREMOVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "Charles @ Kankakee" <n5hsr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >>
>> >> "remco" <whybcuzREMOVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:iSqWe.2925$zN6.2536@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >
>> >> > "Lorem Ipsum" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> > news:11ikbtcpki6f8b7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> "remco" <whybcuzREMOVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [...]
>> >> >> > Our president at the time was very proud to announce that all
>> >> >> > systems
>> >> > are
>> >> >> > secure after IT's fix - "no way, no how a hacker can get in".
>> >> >> > So I told them there was no such thing as a secure system and
>> >> >> > asked
>> > if
>> >> >> > they'd like me to test it. They (IT and him) laughed at me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I used to work with VMS (later OpenVMS) systems. As a systems
>> >> >> manager
>> >> >> (VAX
>> >> >> and Alpha systems) and programmer, I never had a break-in or
>> >> >> incident
>> > in
>> >> >> over twelve years, but I knew how to set it up properly. Later I
>> > changed
>> >> >> jobs and went into applications programming (not system manager)
>> >> >> for a
>> >> > DBMS
>> >> >> vendor who used OpenVMS, the Vice President of our 2nd party
>> >> >> software
>> > had
>> >> >> "his boys" install his new pride and joy, a secure login, secure
>> >> >> application. He had "his boys" set me up as a typical customer, and
>> >> >> as
>> > he
>> >> >> walked out the door to to lunch he said to me, "Break the security
>> >> >> if
>> > you
>> >> >> can." I did it in a minute. He fired me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Yeah, they hate to be wrong, don't they?? I love it when they beg to
>> >> > be
>> >> > made
>> >> > a fool of.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is not an IT story, but at a previous company, some of our
>> >> > software
>> >> > was
>> >> > protected by a USB dongle. When the guy that implemented the
>> >> > security
>> >> > proclaimed it "virtually unbreakable", it was just /screaming/ to
>> >> > be
>> >> > cracked. What was really stupid is that the program generated secure
>> >> > encrypted two D barcodes for use in passports, etc. So it couldn't
>> >> > "fall
>> >> > in
>> >> > the wrong hands", whatever that means..
>> >> >
>> >> > I told them that I'd try to crack it using tools available to
>> >> > anyone.
>> >> > So
>> >> > used WDASM to patch across the security in about 1/2 hour so it
>> >> > could
>> >> > be
>> >> > installed. After about an hour, I could run the program - All
>> >> > without
>> >> > having access to the source code, nor security dongle. After about
>> > another
>> >> > half hour, I patched pictures of beavis and butthead where the
>> >> > company
>> >> > logo
>> >> > used to be. (it took me a while to find the right picture, so that
>> >> > took
>> >> > actually the longest).
>> >> >
>> >> > All Hell pretty much broke out. What can I say? I like beavis and
>> >> > butthead..
>> >> > :)
>> >> > They didn't fire me, though..
>> >> >
>> >> > Good thing we only use our powers for good, huh.. :)
>> >> > Remco
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> What OS's have you worked with?
>> >>
>> >> I've had to work with:
>> >>
>> >> VMS
>> >> MPE IV, V, iX
>> >> S/36
>> >> AS/400 from V3R2 up to V5R3
>> >> Windows 3.0 up to 2003 Server.
>> >> Dos 3.2 up.
>> >> ProDos
>> >> Mac IX and X.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure there are at least a couple people here that have worked with
>> >> the
>> >> various S/360 operating systems.
>> >>
>> >> Charles of Kankakee
>> >>
>> > Let's see:
>> > cp/m, mp/m
>> > dos - a given.
>> > Posix
>> > OS2, OS9
>> > Various Unix - given
>> > Various versions Linux
>> > various versions Solaris
>> > all versions windows
>> > A bunch of embedded RTOSes (windowCE, PSOS, LYNXos, some home grown
>> > stuff).
>> >
>> > Right now, most of what I do is CE and window - a lot of embedded
>> > device/PC
>> > client stuff. (so some ASM for speed, MFC and dotNET)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Did you ever work with CoCo OS/9? <g> We had this one geek at the
>> computer lab that swore by it.
>>
>
> Coco - color computer by radio shack? Sure - I was one of those geeks
> that loaded OS9 on that thing. :)
> I actually liked that 6809; For its day, that was a slick 8 bit device.
> Did a lot of assembler for that thing; wrote a commercial hamster CW
> encode/decode program that basically parroted the conIO. One could
> write a simple keyer in basic this way.
>
>> What was the earliest version of Windows you worked with? I actually got
>> to
>> use Windows/286, which was sort of Windows version 2.
>
> The earliest windows version I hated was version 2 :)
>
>>
>> Charles of Kankakee
>
I had a Vic 20 and then a Plus 4. Half a C64 and half a C128. Sort of a
hermaphrodite. A freak with a little bit of each and not enough of neither.
Charles
.
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