Re: No early first oil change



"Earle Horton" <earle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
<jmattis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
On May 16, 11:43 am, "Elle"
<honda.lion...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
"Earle Horton" <e...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

"Tegger" <teg...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote
And you're an engineer? Neither am I.

I'm a software design engineer, retired. You can
safely
come to me for
advice on all engineering related topics.

Do you really feel that software design "engineer"
denotes
education, training, and experience equivalent to
mechanical, electrical, chemical, and civil engineers?

Just curious. I do not think one need be a bona fide
engineer to have intelligent discussions on technical
topics
here or elsewhere. Though one best have some serious
experience on whatever tech topic is at hand or be
studying
on it.

i think Earle was making a funny. Or baiting you. Not
sure which.

I think Elle was reverse baiting me.

Some software "engineers" (maybe not you) really do fancy
themselves on a par with degreed and experienced mechanical
etc. engineers.

Each group (software technicians and mechanical etc.
engineers) make their contribution, and they cannot do each
others' jobs, AFAIC. But lumping them together is
misleading.

Not that this will stop software developers from calling
themselves "engineers."

Things can get real subtle in here.
Elle has a good point, but the engineers who designed
whatever, and the
technical documentation people who wrung the information
out of them,
probably know a little more than the mechanic on the
corner, or the odd
Usenet poster.

I did not know we were talking about the engineers who
actually designed Honda systems. (They overwhelmingly
modify, by the way. That's design but it's rare that an
automotive engineer actually innovates anything one would
call altogether new.)

I would put my money on many experienced technicians'
(including many amateurs') understanding of a Honda system
before betting on a picked-at-random mechanical engineer.

The really good, bona fide engineers admit what they do not
know and that of course a technician often will have more
expertise in certain areas than s/he. Same for the really
good technicians.

IMO.


.



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