Re: Idea of the muscle car is dead (Or, why Ford can't sell cars now)

On Aug 6, 9:20 pm, NoOptio...@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Aug 5, 9:21 pm, "WindsorFox<SS>" <darkshado...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

God help the USA if we have a left leaning President and a left leaning
Congress in control!
After the last 7+ painful years, I say bring it...
   You've got it.
Whew... thank you!
We went so far right we went right into a ditch.  I say it's time we
yank it left to get us back on the road.  Then if/when we go into the
ditch on the left side we can pull it back to the right again.
You'll either have a left leaning "Republican"
I think McCain is good guy and one that can work both sides of the
isle... something we desperately need.
or a left leaning "Muslim."
Religion doesn't determine a person's character.  (And, not that it
matters, but you know he's Catholic, right?)
    I know he was raised in a Muslim school,

I knows these days, in this country, the constant media drumbeat is:

Muslim = Terrorist

And it's B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!

I've lived in a 98% Muslim country, twice, for a total of almost three
years, and my experience is that they are some of the most friendly,
caring, warm-hearted and family-oriented people I've ever met.  I'll
go further and say I wish our society here in American was even half
as good.  And I'll finish this by saying I could/can ramble on for
hours (please ask me to) telling stories about how well my family and
I were treated by the "terrible Muslims".

his family is Muslim and/or
atheist

"and/or"?  Wow.

FYI -- they believe in a supreme being.

and I know he attended a Christian church where he never heard a
*thing* the pastor said.... Long drawn out nasty story.

How would you know what he heard?  And of that what he agreed or
disagreed with?

And though you are generally correct about character I'll just leave it at I
disapprove of him for a number of reasons.

Fine.  But realize he is one of our/America's brightest (he graduated
from Harvard with top honors), and could have picked any law firm he
wanted to work for (cha ching!!), yet, instead he went into public
service.

And McCain is an outstanding American too.  (Though the Bush campaign
team destroyed his character/war record back in 2000, like they later
did to Kerry in 2004.  Sad.)

Obama is another good guy, and I think he has the potential to be a
great president.  That is as long as some Neanderthal doesn't
assassinate him first...
    Except that oil prices and taxes will likely go so high

Oil prices -- like double or triple in price?  What was the price of
gas again around the year 2000?  And what is it now?

that normal
people will not be able to afford to live.

Seems anymore the Republicans spend the money (always leave with huge
deficits) and the Democrats end up having to pay for it (balance the
budget).  Who's the "conservative" party, again?

At least McCain has not
admitted to wanting to raise taxes *that I've heard*, and he talks about
tangible things to do.

Campaign promises.  Even if you 'read their lips', I wouldn't bank on
them.

Obama talks about nothing but change. When you
ask what change he says change for the GOOD!  Well hell, how can you
argue with that?

The fact of the matter is neither guy really knows what they can or
can't do until they sit in the oval office.

Patrick

The causal contribution of the Bush White House to the mortgage mess,
the price of gasoline and food, and the weakness in the economy is
most certainly not due to its devotion to conservative principles.
The Bush maxim, "If someone hurts government's gotta move," is the
polar opposite of conservatism. 180 degrees out, you might say. The
60% growth in the federal budget in seven years, the runup in food
prices, and the disastrous nation-building adventure in Iraq came to
pass for two principal reasons: one, that Bush is a buffoon, and two,
that we had a unified government (the same party in control of both
the White House and Congress) for most of the Bush years. These
things, and any other Bushist disaster you care to mention, are 100%
not due to Bush's "conservatism." I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks
Bush is a conservative, or even that he is right of center, either
does not know the definition of conservatism, has not been paying
attention or thinking for himself, or is an idiot. He's probably all
of the above.

The correct analysis in any presidential election is, who ranks the
lowest on the scale of buffoonery/amateurism/foolishness, and which
party has control of Congress?

Unified government is the greatest evil of all, at least among those
evils we can easily control. Since the Republicans have managed to
manuver themselves out of a congressional majority for the foreseeable
future, the choice of McCain for President is automatic.

On the buffoonery scale, Obama's promises that his administration is
going to blow up the role of federal government, e.g., in the
regulation of greenhouse gas emissions and in the federal takeover of
the 20% of GDP that is the health care sector, at the same time as he
intends to exclude the representatives of the affected industries from
any role whatsoever in the writing of the thousands of pages of laws
and regulations that these takeovers will require, gives him the edge
in a walk. In fact we should retire the trophy -- after we have
inscribed with the names of all the Obamaniacs who think it's a good
idea to have the amateurs who actually write our laws do so without
any input whatsoever on the part of the affected industries. How the
f**k is that a good idea? It's nuts.

As to all the rest of the Obama agenda, he is more and more a stealth
candidate, a blank slate blathering generalities that each listener
can fill in with whatever content matches his personal values. That
is the most dangerous candidate of all. That is exactly what we have
in President Bush -- a content-free vessel interested in only one
thing: power.

McCain is not a lot better on the buffoonery scale. But his small
margin in this area, combined with the giganitc benefit of the divided
government that his election would bring for at least four years, if
not eight, makes him the far better choice of the two.

Put it this way: if you want to see another eight years with a 60%
growth in federal spending and a no-holds barred assault on personal
liberty in the form of Big Government interference in every nook and
cranny of our private lives, vote for Obama. Obama truly represents
the third and fourth terms of the Bushist regime. The difference will
be a fine-tuning in the quality of the Big Government disasters that
we will experience, but the quantity will be the same if not greater.

180 Out
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