Re: whats with the grips about gas prices?


"walt peifer" <lensman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I know that gas has gotten more expensive over that past 6 months or so,
>but already prices are rolling back here on the west coast of florida.
>Paid $2.599 for regular yesterday. This morning same station had rolled
>back to $2.549. if you inflation adjust prices going back to the early 90's
>gas should be around $3.75 now if it kept pace with other items (gallon of
>milk is now $3.99 at local walmart).
> Our real complaint should be with the auto makers. With close to 20 years
> of computer evolution in autos as well as head design, newer lighter
> materials, fuel economy should be much higher. When I was in sales and
> putting on over 150 miles per day, my 65 mustang 289 2-V automatic
> averaged 21mpg. A recent article in "mustang monthy" showed that on a pony
> ride a father and son team "raced" from home to a car show with a eye on
> fuel economy. late model GT EFI with 5 speed vs 65 4-V with 4 speed the
> 65 car trounced the late model as far as mpg.
> Look at the latest gen of SUV's, not getting any better mileage than a
> early 70's suburaban running a 350 carb engine with a puny little 3 speed
> automatic. you'd think that with 4,5 or even 6 speed auto's and the
> computer controls we should get substantialy better mileage with out
> having to sacrifice reasonable performance and interior room.
My original point still stands. (see below for documentation )we should have
had bigger increases in gas mileage over 40 plus years. I conceded the
points about emmissions and drivablity in my other posts.

However lets look at emmissions briefly. If there is a substantal gain in
MPG then emmission per mile driven would go down. (i.e. 100 mile trip at 10
miles per gallon is 10 gallons of fuel burned, 100 mile trip at 50 MPG is 2
gallons of fuel burned, as more americans are driving more mile per years an
increase in fuel economy would reduce emmissions)
oh by the way read the posting below or go direct to the web link

http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communique&rssid=9851


Every year since 1999, the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has
ranked Ford cars, truck and SUVs as having the worst overall fuel economy of
any American automaker. A recent report from the Union of Concerned
Scientists ranks Ford as having "the absolute worst heat-trapping gas
emissions performance of all the Big Six automakers." From subcompacts to
SUVs, Ford's current line up gets fewer miles per gallon on average than the
Model-T did over 80 years ago. According to the EPA's 2006 Fuel Economy
Guide, three Ford models are among the eight listed as having the "lowest
fuel economy among popular 2006 vehicles."

http://www.globalexchange.org/war_peace_democracy/oil/864.html

In the 2002 model year, the company's sport utility vehicles were 8.4
percent more efficient than the vehicles the company made in the 2000 model
year. But the S.U.V.'s produced this year are only 5.2 percent more
efficient than those made in the 2000 model year, according to the company's
corporate citizenship report.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/mpg/fetrends/420r05001.pdf

After a decline from 22.1 mpg in 1988 to 21.0 mpg in 1994, fuel economy has
beenrelatively constant for a decade. The average fuel economy for all model
year 2005 light-duty vehicles is estimated to be 21.0 mpg, the same value as
achieved in 1994 and thehighest since 1996, but five percent lower than the
peak value achieved in 1987-88.Average model year 2005 fuel economy is 24.7
mpg for cars and 18.2 mpg for light trucks.

Since 1975, the fuel economy of the combined car and light truck fleet has
moved through several phases: (1) a rapid increase from 1975 to the
mid-1980s, (2) a slow increase extending into the late 1980s, (3) a decline
from the peak in the late 1980s until the mid-1990s, and (4) since then a
period of relatively constant overall fleet fuel economy. Viewing new cars
and trucks separately, since 1996, the three-year moving average fuel
economy for cars has ranged from 24.2 to 24.7 mpg, while that for trucks has
ranged from 17.6 to 18.0 mpg, and that for all light-duty vehicles from 20.7
to 21.1 mpg.


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