Re: 1965 289 starting problem

Jim, thanks for your concern.

I've replaced the starter on several cars, alternators, air
conditioning, fuel injectors, intake and exhaust manifolds,
turbochargers, et cetera, in addition to doing all the normal
maintenance. I'm quite capable of doing this.

It may surprise you that not everyone carries a great set of jumper
cables in their back pocket. In fact, I have a set in my Z, but I was
asked to go look at this friends car today. I brought a small toolchest
and my leatherman. I wasn't the one who jumped the car, it was said
friend and a coworker. I'm just relaying the information, as I said, to
get a consensus diagnosis.

Furthermore, we are talking about a starter here, not an airbag, or
brakes, or anything else crucial. The comparison to a medical doctor is
something of a logical fallacy. Working on otto-cycle engines is a lot
like riding a bike, to use the adage. That having been said, if you
look at the starter for a 1982 280ZX, and the starter that's on that
289, they're very different units. The wiring from the battery to the
starter is different. Everything's located in a different place. And,
it's been at least six years since I had a car on jackstands. I've done
a lot of preventative maintenance for friends.

The only reason being "doomed" to ask questions in a newsgroup is doom
at all is people like yourself bite the heads off people with honest
questions. And, before you start, don't give me some song and dance
about there being trolls afoot. You may have heard the expression,
"don't feed the trolls." Well, the idea here is that trolls aim to make
the internet a less pleasant place for their own amusement. To go and
kick every newcomer in the teeth is to let them have your newsgroup.

I was more than polite in my original question, and even went the extra
step of saying that I realized there had been trolling, and qualifying
my original question after I was accused of trolling.

This ad hominem stuff is for children and people who don't understand
that this is a community. I'm frankly shocked at how unfriendly the two
of you were. I've never experienced that in the other automotive
communities I've participated in (which, for the sake of not starting a
brand argument, I won't mention).

I will dredge up my larger toolbox, get the voltmeter from it, suggest
the owner buy a Haynes manual if he wants me to work on his car, and go
perform a proper jump with a proper set of cables.

Thank you, "Wound Up," for your input. I'll see what I can find out, if
I can fix the problem, and post a summary if I can.

.

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