Re: There is no gas shortage

In article <480f5282$1@kcnews01>, C. E. White wrote:

In the broadest definition of "GMO" 100% of corn grown in the US is
genetically modified. I realize some of the modifications happened the
old fashion way (crossbreeding) but why is that any more acceptable
than inserting genes? Like it or not genes somehow get transferred in
nature - witness the "natural" development of "Round-Up Ready" weeds.
I don't think Monsanto is out there inserting the gene that confers
resistance to Round-Up in pig weeds, but they got it anyhow.

Nice spin job there. Inserting genes is *NOTHING* like cross breeding
unless you've learned to do things like cross breed an insect with a
plant naturally. What it does is take geneticmaterial from entirely
different species or even from animals to plants or insects to plants
and then neglect the unknown changes in the food. Nobody knows what
other things are being changed when they go in to make the desired
change. Not a clue. There is little knowledge what even the desired
changed does once the crop is eaten too.

GMO also goes well beyond resistance to chemicals. In some cases the
gene is inserted so that the plant makes the toxin that fends off the
insects or whatever. This has some interesting results when eaten. It's
sort of like eating pesticide. Then there is the problem of GMO
perhaps altering bacteria in the digestive tract... nobody really has a
clue about it, but it's fine to make the majority of our food crops
GMO... just trust them that it is okay. Those who are concerned about it
are just tin-foil-hat nutters.

I wish you had told the rats in NC that they don't like to eat GMO
corn. Seems they didn't get the message here. And I think you are not
stating true facts when you say "the rats were force-fed .... GMO food
and died."

I didn't say it was corn. I don't remember which crop it was but it
wasn't corn.

There are certainly internet stories that make similar
claims, but are they truly verifiable? I've seen a couple of half
baked preliminary studies regarding Round-Up Ready Soybeans and
pregnant rats, but not anything conclusive.

Of course, it's all tin-foil-hat nonsense... we can trust our loving
corporations and the government that serves them! All those other
countries that resist GMO foods just don't know what they are doing. The
corporations and government in the US have 'top men' working on GMO and
it's good for you.... just trust them. So is flouride, agent orange, DU,
radioactive fallout, and bunch of other things. Don't let the fact they
really have no clue and we'll just see how it turns out scare you...
afterall, where would be now if soliders weren't put out there and
exposed to atomic bomb blasts.

Maybe I just don't like being a science experiement against my will
because our loving government not only won't mandate that foods indicate
that they contain GMO crops but bans the practice of using labels to say
that a food does NOT contain GMO. So much for the free market and free
choice.

Round-up ready soybeans
have been on the market for a decade. Feed lots and industrial chicken
farms keep careful record. I suspect if Round-Up Ready beans and corn
were affecting the growth of animals, there would be evidence
available. I have also seen studies that claim that you cannot easily
detect the difference between GMO beans and corn and corn and beans
from plants developed with traditional breeding techniques. Who should
I believe?

Yes, let's randomly screw around with the food supply and hope that it
doesn't turn toxic. Sounds like a great plan, especially when
non-GMO crops no longer exist because the stuff got out and spread field
to field. Humans have basically no clue what they are doing but they are
doing it.

Growth of the animals... well if that is all you care about... I care
more about what toxins are being generated and passed on. What
horizontal gene transfer might be going on. Just keeping the animals fat
and happy isn't the scary part.

What is the economic attack that GMO represents? For years I resisted
planting Round-Up Ready Soybeans. Instead, I went with older chemicals
to control weeds. For the last two years, I decided to go with the RR
beans and couldn't be happier. The costs are significantly lower and
the yields are just as good. The patent on Round-Up has expired, and
there are cheaper "generic" versions available. I am not even sure why
Monsanto continues to push Round-Up Ready crops.

There are the farmers that that have been sued when GMO pollen infected
their crops...

That aside, I take it you buy seed each year instead of keeping some
seed from your crop. The idea is to force the buying of seed each year.
It's like the software model where you have to pay each year instead of
buying the software once.

It seems like there is always some group crying the sky is falling
about something.

I don't know.. considering what isn't known about the practice and what
is known about it I don't much like being a lab rat. Do you?

If you want to go after someone, you need to go after the FDA. They
are charged with safeguarding the nations food supply. They do have
programs in place. Perhaps you believe they are inadequate?

The FDA like much of government is there to serve whomever has ownership
and influence of the government. Those who make the GMO have purchased
the influence so the FDA has made it so we cannot even legally know if
there is GMO in our food or not. The free market would do a better job
at 'protecting' us than the FDA.


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