Re: Ticket for going 48 in a 35 MPH speed zone

In article <1181081865.166453.47040@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"John S." <hjsjms@xxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 5, 5:20 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@xxxxxxxxx (Brent P) wrote:
In article <1181077280.464199.254...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John S.
wrote:
Point 1 - there is a law that covered the exact act that my son did -
why
did the officer charge him with a far more serious offense?
He was trying to make a point with an irresponsible teenage driver
before the kid went out and killed somone. Hopefully the father sees
just how serious his sons behaviour was.

If it was just an unintentional tire spinning, all the kid has learned is
the life lesson that cops are part of a corrupt system. Now I don't know
what year mustang it is, but he said 6 cylinder and a diff without
limited slip. This probably means it's an older mustang with about 90hp.
The odds of reckless showing off at a traffic light are rather low, so in
the absence of more data, I'll lean towards just a little tire slip
probably due to nothing more than old or cheap tires.

You are sending the wrong message to your son my friend. This
exercise is about learning something from having to go to court rather
than just blithely paying the fine and going on.

And if it was just a little wheel slip due to some pep-boys special tires
he's learned it's a rigged, corrupt system.

should ;earn from this experience. Instead you have him believing the
officer and the court were wrong.

The problem is cops and the system have lied and cheated so often in
their quest for revenue, a teenager can easily be the more reliable
source of what occured.

Point 2 - Have you ever inadvertently spun your tires? This is a rear
wheel
drive six cylinder Mustang. It doesn't have a limited rear axle.
Spinning
the tires inadvertently is very easy to do - particularly on the crummy
pavement around here. At no point was anyone in danger.
That's pure bullshit and you know it. He was wise-assing around in
front of a cop and thought he could get away with it. Wrong
guess.....

You know that exactly how?

Teenage male drivers as a group have a much higher opinion of their
ability to react properly in a given situation than reality would
indicate.

Some are the direct opposite.

Yes, by spinning the tires at the wrong time he could
easily have put the lives of others in jeopardy.

It's wet out today. As I drive my 6 cylinder maverick without limited
slip, I just might spin the tires not that I would want to, but nobody will
be in danger. Although since I bought good tires for it, it doesn't
happen much at all. In fact, it's much more difficult to even lock the
brakes since I got those tires. It's all a function of available traction.

And that's the message you and your son fail to comprehend.

You are making huge assumptions about his son without any basis in fact.
I would contend he knows his son, the car, and the local PD well enough
to make an accurate judgement.

You and I both know (or should know) that he didn't get a ticket for a
little tire squeak because he hit a patch of wet pavement or sand.
C'mon the story as presented is at best incomplete.

I don't know that, so how do you?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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