Re: OT - RFID chips in passports next year

Jim Yanik <jyanik@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>Bernd Felsche <bernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>Bernd Felsche <bernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Jim Yanik <jyanik@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

>>>>>One thing for certain,attempt to cross a border using a passport
>>>>>with an inoperative RFID chip will get you the 3rd degree,maybe
>>>>>even a full body- cavity search,and your auto disassembled for a
>>>>>FULL search.

>>>>>It would definitely single you out for "special" treatment. Not
>>>>>much different than talking about bombs on a commercial air
>>>>>flight.

>>>> Jim, I know that this is unfashionably quaint but there is such a
>>>> thing as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

>>>Now I KNOW you aren't dealing with reality.
>>>Tampered documents means increased scrutiny,and that doesn't violate
>>>anyone's "rights".

>> The inability to easily verify a document's authenticity doesn't
>> justify "full body-cavity search,and your auto disassembled for a
>> FULL search".

>It depends on indications of document tampering,the mood or whim of the
>officials on duty.If they have reason to suspect you,you DO get increased
>scrutiny,and it's level depends on how THEY feel.

What about the law? Officials are also required to obey laws. When
officials choose to invoke arbitrary penalties for unproven
"offences" against arbitrary persons, then that is an indication of
the absence of the rule of law.

Countries where those things happen, tend not to be frequented by
visitors. Nor do they see much external investment.

>"justification" is at the whim of whoever's at the border point.
>I love it when people start spouting off about their "rights",especially
>whne it comes to travel to other countries.

It's not my rights I'm particularly worried about. It's everybody
else's.

I'm still flumoxed as to how the RFID is actually supposed to
achieve the stated goals without compromising those very same goals.

More likely is "abuse" such as:
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/BR_introSmrtGt0409.pdf

A legitimate holder may be "persuaded" to carry an eavesdropping
device device through the "smart gate" to snoop on the protocol to
reveal the hash used during BAC. It's then conceivable that that
information can be used subsequently to produce forged docuemnts
with images of different holders.
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