Re: Bikes!

ela1705@xxxxxx wrote in
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>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> >
>> > You don't get it. There is distiction between bicyclists and POBs.
>
>> No,there is not.
>>
>
> Well, you are badly mistaken. The width of the spectrum of cyclists
> far exceeds that of motorists. As lax as driving standards are in the
> US you still at least have to go to the trouble of heading down to the
> DMV and get licensed [well, most of us anyways]. Riding a bike
> requires nothing more than a bike.


THAT is WHY there's no distinction between "bicyclists and Persons-On
Bikes(POB).POB is just another form of Brent's elitism.

> We all probably rode bikes as a kid
> with no clue about traffic laws. Some of us grew up and continued to
> ride and soon realized that if we wanted to survive and get anywhere
> on our bikes we'd better pay attention to traffic and traffic laws.
> There is a major, major difference between someone who spends 500 or
> 600 hours a year riding around on their bike, as opposed to joe loser
> that can't afford a car riding off to his job as a dishwasher.
>
>
>> > Like there is between drivers and LLBs.
>>
>> LLB refered to a particular bad behavior,"bicyclists" or "POB" does
>> not. Those terms both describe people using bicycles,nothing more.
>> Unless that is some of the "elite cyclists" terminology that means
>> nothing to the ordinary person.
>
> Nothing elite about the comment but an attempt to show that everyone
> riding a bike is not cut out of the same mold. Motorists by and large
> try to group cyclists in one large pot. It simply is not the way
> things are.

What I'm saying is that the ordinary bicycle rider (POB)is more
representative than Brent's "commuter cyclists",the narrow,"elite" group
that does not have pricey bikes,as Brent thinks.
>
>
>> There you go AGAIN;"commuting bicyclists",as if they are the only
>> bicyclists,which they ARE NOT. Again trying to reframe with a narrow
>> subset.It would not be necessary to do that if you had any sound
>> argument,but you don't,so you try to reframe.
>
> At 3 bucks a gallon for gas I expect you'll see this subset start to
> grow significantly.
>
>

I expect to see more carpooling or ride sharing,and fewer miles driven,more
people riding the bus.Most people are not in any shape to commute to work
on bikes,and summer temperatures and weather(rain),lack of shower
facilities at work will keep most people from turning to bicycles.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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