Re: Using One foot vs. Two feet When Driving Automatics ?????????


Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On 17 Aug 2005 05:44:12 -0700, "Harry K" <turnkey4099@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Ashton Crusher wrote:
> >> On 16 Aug 2005 18:27:18 -0700, "Harry K" <turnkey4099@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Ashton Crusher wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:32:54 -0500, russotto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <qprtf1tvjma7penggf1r3c4nl7tkm5ec04@xxxxxxx>,
> >> >> >Ashton Crusher <Hello@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>It never fails to amaze me how many people have x-ray vision and can
> >> >> >>see what other peoples feet are doing when driving. How do you know
> >> >> >>that the guys you see lurching along are not doing right foot double
> >> >> >>duty? It is far more likely that those who are constantly jerking
> >> >> >>their ONE foot back and forth between the throttle and brake will be
> >> >> >>the ones lurching along the road as the alternately jab at each pedal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Not when the brake light is on the whole time, genius.
> >> >>
> >> >> The OP said nothing about the brake light being on the whole time. In
> >> >> fact, he said when they "hit the brake" which suggests that it was NOT
> >> >> on the whole time, genius.
> >> >
> >> >I tried 'covering' the brake with my left foot today (Ford 500). Can't
> >> >be done comfortably, the foot has to be right over agains the right one
> >> >at a very awkward angle. I defy anyone to cover the brake for extended
> >> >periods without riding the brakes, your foot will get tired very
> >> >rapidly and you will soon be using the brake as a foot rest.
> >> >
> >> >Harry K
> >>
> >> I can't comment on the position of the pedals in that car . I can tell
> >> you that I have been LFBing for decades in all sorts of cars and
> >> trucks and have never had a problem with riding the brakes even though
> >> I often "cover" the pedal. Once you learn how to do it you DO develop
> >> sensitivity in your foot where you can tell whether you are touching
> >> the pedal AND pushing it down, or just touching the pedal, or not
> >> quite touching it. I assume you "cover" your gas pedal when you are
> >> coasting, do you find that when you think you are coasting you are
> >> actually pressing on the gas pedal? I suspect not because you have
> >> learned the feel of the pedal and can tell the difference between just
> >> touching, BUT NOT MOVING it, versus pressing it enough to move it. It
> >> DOES take effort to actually make either pedal move, effort/force
> >> above and beyond that which is sufficient to touch it and feel it
> >> WITHOUT moving it. It's no different then any other skill, you have
> >> to practice it and learn the feel of each vehicle. I got a new CV
> >> last year to replace my Caprice and it has a much different feel. The
> >> first week I drove it was a learning experience, it just felt
> >> different and handled different and the pedals were positioned
> >> differently, the steering reacted differently as did the brakes and
> >> overall handling. Now it's all second nature when I drive it. If you
> >> don't like LFB for whatever reason that's your right, to say that no
> >> one can do it properly because you can't or won't is just silly.
> >
> >No, when coasting or just driving I do not ride the brakes. Why would
> >I even be resting my foot on the brake while coasting?
>
> Go back and read my post again and note that I said GAS pedal, not
> brake pedal. Then try answering the question again.

Sorry, I did mis read it. The answer is No, why should I. I am not
going to be using it. I also don't 'cover' it when I am on cruise
other than having my foot somewhere near it as there isn't much other
place to put it.


> The proper way
> >to control speed on downhill portions is to allow speed to build up
> >then brake firmly to drop the speed and repeat as necessary. I am
> >currently making a daily trip down a 7 mile grade, 6% at top, 7% at
> >bottom with no let up. Hit the brakes about 6 times/trip. My foot
> >never approaches the brake unless I intend to actually -use- it.
> >
> >All your protests aside I suspect you do light up your brake lights
> >without knowing it.
> >
>
> Well you'd be wrong. I'm not on my original brakes (with 40% left) on
> my 99 GT at 45,000 miles because I ride em.
>

If you have used up 60% of brakes in only 45 k, you are doing something
very wrong unless you are racing on a track every week.

>
> >Somewhere up thread you maintained that you save significant reaction
> >time by LLB. You don't. All you save is the time it takes to move
> >your foot from gas to brake, very small fraction of a second.
> >
> >Harry K
>
> Sorry, but you do. Do you ever take the time to figure out the FACTS
> before you toss out your unsupported assertions? Moving the foot to
> "cover" position can take about 0.2 second. At 60 mph the savings of
> 0.2 second means you can stop 18 feet sooner then you would have been
> able to if you didn't "cover" by using LFB and covering. That's the
> difference between ramming the car in front of you and not hitting it
> at all. "very small fraction of a second" add up.

Well, it only took you 2 posts to arrive at the ad hominem.

<plonk>

Harry K

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