Re: 6SN7 Mu Follower Distortion Paper

flipper wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:32:24 +0000, Ian Bell <ruffrecords@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

flipper wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:07:24 -0800 (PST), bigwig
<mattbhawkins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 27 Jan, 23:00, Ian Bell <ruffreco...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
bigwig wrote:
On 27 Jan, 18:19, Ian Bell <ruffreco...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
flipper wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:05:58 +0000, Ian Bell <ruffreco...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
flipper wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:28:38 +0000, Ian Bell <ruffreco...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Iain Churches wrote:
"Ian Bell" <ruffreco...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have written up the work I did on investigating distortion in a 6SN7 mu
follower and posted it at my website. You can read it here:
http://www.ianbell.ukfsn.org/data/mufollowerdistortion.pdf
Ian. Excellent paper.
You mentioned that you had, or were in the process
of acquiring, a HP spectrum analyser to examine the
differences between the distortion profile of the
different valves/tubes that you had tested.
Have you done this analysis yet? Some pics would be of
interest.
Not yet - I am at present struggling to get a twin T notch filter
working properly so I can measure the individual harmonics. However, I
can say from some initial tests without the twin T that at 20V rms the
2H level is close to -50dB, the 3H seems to be around -75dB and the
third is below what my instrument will measure. So the contention that
it is 'mainly second harmonic' would seem to be true.
As for pictures, the device I have bought is an HP 3581A Wave Meter - it
is in effect a spectrum analyser but not with a PC interface for
capturing nice pictures. You can connect it to a scope but as its scan
rate is of the order of seconds you wont see much on a scope unless it
is a storage type and mine isn't - it will interface directly to a pen
plotter though!!!! I have seen a suggestion of using it with a USB data
capture device but one of these costs more than I paid for the HP ;-) so
for the present it will just have to be done by hand.
OTOH a cheap PC interface type scope might do the trick.
Very well might and there are a couple of free ones so all it would
take is some patch cables to see.
I have tried a couple of those that use your PC soundcard on my laptop.
Could not get either one of them to work properly - probably something
to do with the sound chip but it is a new laptop.
What did it not do? Or, what was the problem?
I made a loop back lead so output was connected to input. Then I ran the
calibrate utility and it said there was insufficient gain and asked me
to alter the input gain. Unfortunately Windows Bloody Vista has no such
function. If you cannot get past this stage the program refuses to do
anything.
Maybe they require sound blaster comparability. I don't recall, off
hand, because I've got them on an old notebook running win98 and never
really used them past seeing they 'worked' because I have a 'real'
dual trace scope anyway.
No I was thinking more of those that plug into a usb port and have some
external = decent electronics.
Sure. I was just trying to be 'cheap' ;) Especially since, if I
gathered the setup correctly, all you need it for is display.
Pretty much and capture too of course.
Cheers
ian
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What program were you using? My laptop runs Vista as standard and its
not that bad or good. I had my friend put XP on the partition, it
works great except that it thinks the audio bus is being used by a
modem;-( Mine uses a crappy 945 chipset and I think this is the
problem. I dont really see them bringing out any new drivers soon or
ever. So basically any audio stuff I have tried on my laptop have been
a pain and or impossible to use.
Matt.
I tried two programs neither of which I could get to work. One was
Rightmark Audio Analyser and the other was True RTA.

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Thanks Ian,
I will try them but I am not holding any hopes for my laptop, its 18
months old now and it was middle of the line when new.
That might not be as much of a problem as you might think. For one,
there's the possibility of getting drivers for your on-board sound but
on-board sound isn't all that good anyway so you might want to get a
'good' USB sound card (like, say, maybe M-Audio), which removes the
driver problem.

A USB card is also transportable to a new system, should you later
upgrade.
That sounds like a good idea - might also work on Linux. Can you recommend any?

I might have more info in a week or two because I just bought an
M-Audio Delta 66.

That's PCI but it was too good a deal to pass up.

Btw, it has Vista drivers, both 32 and 64 bit. It's the USB version
that's missing the 64 bit drivers.

I have just come across the Sweex External Sound Card which seems to have a plethora of inputs and outputs and apparently uses the C-Media chip set, whatever that is. Is it any good??


|Cheers

Ian

Cheers

Ian
Matt.
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