Re: No cosy chats with a child molester
- From: Andre Jute <fiultra@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:42:33 -0800 (PST)
On Feb 29, 12:07 am, WindsorFox-{SS}- <windsor...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Feb 28, 9:18 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Andre Jute" <fiul...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Frankly, I think every decent person should simply and permanently ignore
anybody who calls other posters child molesters because it is always wrong
and simply a rotten thing to to. It is incredibly childish.
I agree with you, Arny, if the accusation is false. But an exception
must be made for the truth. In the case of the accusation of child
molestation against Henry Pasternack you should be aware of the facts:
I would say only if you have certified proof of conviction. What you
described is hearsay.
Really?
A pattern of pornography-mongering spread over years, two continents,
and hundreds of recipients, accusations by several distinct parties
(who are unknown to each other) over a period of years, confessions
and admissions by several of the principals over a period of years,
and reams more of supporting evidence. And some anonymous poster on
the internet describes all this as "hearsay"? No court in any
democratic country will agree with you, sonny. In any event, I traced
pornography sent to the Single Driver Conference in my name to
Pasternack's ISP. That's not hearsay; that's confirmatory evidence in
my own hand.
Even if you have proof of conviction, why not take
the high road?
That's the whole point, Windsor Fox, that I'm taking the high road by
refusing to have any truck whatsoever with a child molester.
How could you think anything else? What's wrong with you, man?
Andre Jute
A perfectly reasonable chap
The original which Windsor Fox cut about to make his spurious point:
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On Feb 28, 9:18 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Andre Jute" <fiul...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8b5efff7-81ba-477e-af3c-01e5ed1d767e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Frankly, I think every decent person should simply and permanently ignore
anybody who calls other posters child molesters because it is always wrong
and simply a rotten thing to to. It is incredibly childish.
I agree with you, Arny, if the accusation is false. But an exception
must be made for the truth. In the case of the accusation of child
molestation against Henry Pasternack you should be aware of the facts:
1. It isn't me making the accusation against Pasternack. Henry
Pasternack has in fact been accused by Robert Chernofsky, long known
to everyone on the tube conferences as BobC, presumably known to you
too as Pasternack's longtime associate in crime. Why should Robert
Chernofsky accuse Pasternack if it isn't true?
2. It is repeatedly and untruthfully claimed by Pasternack sockpuppets
like Worthless Wiecky and the garage vermin Jon Yaeger that I accuse
Pasternack -- because they have no way of dealing with the actual
accusation by Pasternack's bumbuddy Chernofsky.
3. There is, besides the accusation of Pasternack by his fellow-
criminal Chernofsky, and a public accusation by the father of the
abused girls, huge amounts of supporting evidence of pornography-
mongering by Pasternack and Pals. Pasternack's puppetmaster, Creepy
Mike Lafevre, confessed on hehalf of his gang, the Magnequest Scum of
which Pasternack was a leading member, to the pornography mongering
which led to the child molestation. There is further supporting
evidence which you may glean by reading these threads.
4. One cannot because a few people abuse accusations of child
molestation merely for polemic advantage, make a rule to give real
child molesters a free pass on the internet.
5. Everyone should be permitted to make up his own mind on the
evidence available. For some of us it is a matter of conscience not to
give aid and comfort to child molesters. It is a matter of principle
for me not to give a proven child molester a free pass. It is a matter
of hygiene not to shake the hand of such slime even virtually.
6. I leave what others do to their consciences, as long as they do not
try to force me to conform to their outlook, as you're trying to do.
If you want to be deliberately blind to the evidence, that is your
outlook. I do not even say in public what I think of you because of
it.
And here is my original, which says nothing about child molestation:
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Pasternack wrote:
Andreand again, Pasternack wrote:
Andre
Mr Jute to you, Pasternack. It would be better for you to take the
advice of Iain Churches and stay altogether clear of me. That means
stay out of my threads, don't address me, don't refer to me, and to
be
certain I don't notice you and remember that I have unfinished
business with you, step off the pavement when I approach. You would
also be smart to remove your little acolytes Worthless Wiecky and the
garage vermin Jon Yaeger from my face, because I shall hold you
responsible for their actions.
Andre Jute
Out of patience with regurgitated scum and wishful thinkers
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