Goodbye and thanks for all the fish
- From: Andre Jute <fiultra@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:36:33 -0800 (PST)
On Feb 28, 8:36 am, "Iain Churches" <Iai...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It seems that people are reluctant to speak out here, for
fear of (quote) "causing a deterioration of the atmosphere"
You've already caused the deterioration by inviting back, in whichever
form and wherever you stated your support, the disgraced flamer, Henry
Pasternack.
You, Andre, are in a better position than most of us, to
put this group back on the rails, if you really have the best
interests of RAT at heart.
What you mean is that I should give a criminal against RAT and
society, Henry Pasternack a free pass.
What you have failed to grasp, Iain, is that I wouldn't even mention
Pasternack's name, except for the continual harassment of his
surrogates Worthless Wiecky and the garage vermin Jon Yaeger.
I cannot say whether Henry will stay or go. It is entirely
his own decision.
Pasternack has a history of crashing and burning. He is already
spiralling downwards on his way out, addressing people who find him
extremely distasteful, ignoring your warning, and a warning by John
Byrns, to stay clear of me. I guarantee Pasternack and his surrogates
will ignore the further, more explicit warning I posted today. The
results are predictable.
I did not, as you put it, "invite him" to
return. He has the same rights on this group as any of
us.
You're simply ignorant of the history of RAT, Iain. It is precisely
because Pasternack and his associated scum arrogated to themselves the
right to decide who should be excluded from RAT that they were driven
out. I am the great champion of an open door policy to RAT, and I've
paid an awful price for it. I don't stop Pasternack coming to RAT; I
merely regulate his offences to an acceptable level.
< I would regard his presence here, and the knowledge
and experience which he brings with him, to be to the
benefit of all. His contribution to the isolation transformer
thread is proof of this.
Crap. Pasternack has been caught out repeatedly lying on professional
matters for personal reasons. Pasternack will know a thing to be A and
tell you B because he dislikes you. Pasternack cannot be trusted.
(Look up the Zo = 1Rp debate for an excellent example of what
Paaternack will do in his "zeal to flame Andre" -- his own words.)
There are now several possible scenarios. I am
optimistic. If the worst comes to the worst, I shall
bid you gentlemen adieu, and spend more time
elsewhere.
Either you get to choose the team, or you will take your ball and bat
and go elsewhere? Sounds like juvenile emotional blackmail to me. But
if that's how you want to be perceived, who am I to stand in your way?
An "ex RAT e-mail ring" has been
suggested. I am not sure how it would work,
but as I keep contact with many people who no
longer post here, it seems like a good idea. I am
told that it might be possible to set up an
tube/valve audio conference as a part of a
University closed group. This would be a sure
way to keep out the pathologists.
Take Pasternack, Wieck and Yaeger with you -- and those remaining on
RAT will thank you for taking the psychotics out of RAT and leaving
only the pathologists behind. (FYI, a pathologist is one who dissects
a diseased body; we have a lot of experience studying the pathogens
Pasternack and his mob spread.)
Let's see what happens.
We know what will happen. We've seen it before, too many times
already. Pasternack has already taken up his flame wars where he left
them off on his last drive-by shooting. In a fortnight or a month
he'll be gone, screeching imprecations over his shoulder, and all this
disturbance will have been for no gain.
Cordially,
Iain
Good luck wherever you go. Just take Pasternack, Wieck and Yaeger with
you, and we'll remember you kindly.
Andre Jute
Eminently reasonable. Perfectly principled. Totally consistent.
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