An unappetising gaggle of low-rent underachievers. was Info on designing Tube circuits wanted

West <nospam@xxxxxxx> wrote:

"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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And whatever you do and whomever you emulate, let it not be Andre.
What you will get from this source is non-working designs using
boutique tubes of questionable utility with uniformly wretched
results.

Most everyone else here has given you reasonable and independently
verifiable advice. Patrick Turner has forgotten more about tube
systems and design than the rest of the NG collectively.

The advice I would give if you have the time and the patience would be
to obtain a full-stock Dynaco ST-70 and take it through any and many
of the various modifications that surround its design from its
initiation into the Audio Market in 1961 - ultimately ending with
Patricks design.

You will learn more about the care and feeding of tube amps from that
process in a measured and well-supported environment than most other
options. This is by no means the only way to go, but it is a way to
take a proven, common design through vast numbers of proven
modifications - and at a relatively low cost using easily obtained
parts. You should be able to take an ST-70 through most of its
potential paces for less cost than the simple cost of tubes for an
"Andre Special" amp.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Hello New Timer,

There is nothing I can really add to all the fine advice you have already
received except to say that "Rome wasn't built in a Day," and also to be
extremely cautious when working with the potential lethal voltages in tube
equipment.
The next caution I would like to present to you is one that is not too easy
for me to say. I do feel that it is necessary and hope it doesn't give you
the wrong impression about this otherwise fine, at times kooky, rest of the
members. I apologize for Peter Wieck who just posted a rather unfair
inflammatory message to you regarding another member (Andre Jute).
Check out Andre's Web site ( http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ ) and
you'll soon discover that he is a brilliant man revered by many
professionals in the field. He has written many equipment reviews for
various tube audio magazines and has published several books. He and Patrick
Turner maintain a very comprehensive site that covers many aspects, both
theoretical and hands on approach, of tube electronics. They are the dynamic
duo backbone of this fine august group.
Of course, Peter Wieck hasn't written anything except these type posts that
are designed to "poison the well" of another fine thread, especially one
written by a newcomer.
If you ever watched the movie "Amadeus," think of Mr.Wieck as Salieri and
Andre as Mozart. I think you can get the picture.
Please feel free to ask any questions no matter how basic you may think they
are and again, welcome.

Cordially,
west

Congratulations, Westley, you now have your own fartcatchers Phread,
Worthless and Jono clustering around your ankles, shouting to catch
your attention every time you speak. It is the modern equivalent of
the slave in the carriage with the Roman general awarded a triumph,
whispering in his ear even as the crowds cheer, "Remember, you are
only human."

Thanks for the giggle. Eat some beans/

Andre Jute
Catch a fool by his envy -- Siegfried von Holst

****
And here are your fartcatchers doing their thing:


Poor Phread <nobody@xxxxxxxxxx> shouts:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You slay me, West!

Andre as Mozart?

Are you saying Mozart was a horse's ass like Andre?

Horse***!!!


Poor Jon Yaeger <jono_1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> shouts:

Like you said:

"There is nothing I can really add"

So why bother with more trolling and arse-licking?

Jon


Poor Peter Wieck <pfjw@xxxxxxx> shouts:

Westiepoo:

You do understand that "Amadeus" was FICTION. And that in reality,
Salieri and Mozart were good friends. I guess you also are a victim of
Andre's disease being limited to proof-by-repetition rather than
actual fact. As I am no friend to Andre, and, as it happens what
passes through my hands tends to work afterwards and does so without
pretense and without pontification... and, as it happens, the single
design ever offered by Andre in this venue has never passed signal,
your analogy fails both in historical and fictional counts. I am no
Mozart, nor am I any Salieri, but then I do not offer myself as
either. I am a cut-and-try hobbyist with some 35 years of experience
peripheral to the hobby and still learning nearly every day. Andre is,
without qualification, a hack. Pretentious, not too bright, adequate
as a wordsmith, but mostly given meaningless drivel... at bottom just
a hack. That he has you in his thrall indicates more towards severe
limitations to your native wit than Andre's competence and worthiness
as an avatar.

Just hope that when you reach Andre's age, you are not like him...
unhappy, angry, and requiring phantom sockpuppets like Glassgrey and
damaged acolytes such as you for validation.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

What an unappetising gaggle of low-rent underachievers.

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