Re: My Mcintosh MC240 output transformer with primary windings shorted
- From: Patrick Turner <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:25:30 GMT
bassett wrote:
> "Patrick Turner" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message >>
> >
> > But the products these ppl make are 3 times the price of mine,
> > and mine are as good or better performing, ( a feat any really
> > serious DIYer can acieve BTW.)
> >
> > All these names have been around for 30 years+ and have come into
> > existance with an enormous amount of $$ spent on product promotion and
> > investement in manufacturing plants.
> >
> > You don't pay for the all the cosmetics and promotion and
> > factories when one orders and eventually receives a hand made
> > amp from me.
> >
> > I have had to service mu hi-end audio gear by top names.
> >
> > The excellence and reliablity and ease of servicing is a complete myth.
> > What a concept.
> >
> > One can only guess at what an amp may sound like that could be described
> > as being "bull pricked" .
> > Just place hands over ears and hope you don't get facialed.
> >
> > Yes but he must have had other people around him who helped
> > to run his business and finance it all.
> >
> > I have had utterly no help from anyone at any time.
> >
> > Nobody thinks that forming a group to build tube amps in Australia
> > would in any way succeed like it did for ARC and CJ after decades of
> > market exposure.
> >
> > As for the SS amp makers, let me say they will all secumb to digital amps;
> > they will be the first dinosaurs to perish under the impact
> > of the digital meteor heading their way.
> >
> > I will leave a legacy of a few happy owners.
> >
> > When i worked in the construction industry I left a legacy
> > of happy ppl. I am no less a man because I didn't build a hundred homes a
> > year;
> > I used to specialize in design and construction of house extensions.
> > I had and still have the ability to carefully access a persons needs, and
> > build something for him.
> > I only had to do about one large job a year and thus keep out of jail and
> > off the streets.
> > I never had a fight with a client during 20 years of woking in my own
> > business.
> > Most other tradesmen had wives who did the books and answered phone calls
> > and the housework and cooking.
> > I never found a woman prepared to commit herself to all that so guess who
> > had to do all those hard yards.
> >
> > I am happy to be what I am, and if i were to become
> > more "successful" ie, turn out quantity as well as quality,
> > then I would need to have equally committed people
> > surrounding me and prepared to be dedicated to the product
> > and not finacially greedy, ie, prepared to work long hard hours for SFA
> > like me until headway is made, if any at all.
> > I am a hopeless salesman and promoter, but I know how to delight ppl with
> > music gear. But anyone who does connect themself to
> > my product does so at their expense and risk, and
> > so should they like to see better cosmetics on the amps then *they*
> > have to pay for that, and take steps to be able to make the amps more
> > saleable and do all the trawling around and promotions work.
> > I would never let anything out of the workshop unless i get
> > what I want from the making of the product.
> >
> > When i had sample amps in a local hi-fi store they wouldn't
> > spend a single cent on promoting anything and still wanted 50%
> > of the retail price which had to be cheap like Jolida amps.
> > I gracefully withdrew having amplifiers in their shop
> > and strated a website especially when i learnt they used my amps as work
> > horses to demonstrate to
> > ppl visiting the shop to point out the benefits of tubes and then convince
> > ppl to buy the cheaper priced Jolidas, or Golden Tube Audio, etc.
> >
> > Meanwhile, after having amps in shops with my name on it and with a flyer
> > for 2 years, only 2 ppl ever had the panache to find out who i was
> > and contact me directly to negotiate a sale privately to avoid the
> > horrendous shop mark up.
> >
> > I got used by the emporium, ignored by the fickle public, but
> > luckily a small band of locals hear the benefits of what i make.
> > But to pay the bills, most of my work is fixing crap.
> >
> > Patrick Turner.
> >
>
> I will agree with you about production, but when it comes to retailling the
> finished product, YOU are in control, you tell the retail outlet, what YOU
> want, you also tell them what there cut will be.. And if it does not suit
> them, Fine . You can go elsewhere, with your product. They are stuck in one
> place. BUT you must stay in control.
Rubbish.
You obviously have no expereince with the retail industry and the
agreements they insist upon.
The want 50% commision here, and 60%+ isn't unusual elesewhere.
So if I want $4,000 in my hands for an amp equal say to a
McIntosh 275 retro re-issue that sells for about $4,300 in my local stores,
then the retail price for mine has to be $8,000.
Chinese amps worse than Jolida are also in the same store for $2,400,
so I just cannot survive in the shops.
ME never sold amps in shops, and VAF won't sell speakers in shops.
*** the middle men.
>
>
> While you might have no love for me, I can understand where your coming from
> with your Amp's , you live with them, you take pride in what you make, and
> you expect the buyer to also have the same respect for YOUR product. Time
> does not matter, your not running a production line, your building a product
> that will last , and you build in
> one or possable two at a time. And when someone asks . how long will it take
> to complete the thing.. You reply, "it will take as long as it takes"
> A couple of us build speakers, out of real wood, not compressed cardboard,
> and plastic veneer. We build 3 or 4 pairs a year, we don't take orders, when
> there finished , there finished. It takes me weeks to hand sand the
> cabinets and apply 10 coats of Oil. When there finished there like Glass,
> but it takes time. Production costs would be astronomicial, if I was running
> a production line, But when the Scan Speak's are fitted, they sound , like
> your Amps, worth all the Time, trouble and sweat, that made them.
> And you cannot put a price on that..
>
> Perhaps, Just perhaps you should advertise your web site, there are people
> out there, that don't have the opportunity to obtain, that something a bit
> special, simply because they don't know it's there
I have never got around to E-bay selling, but that looks mainly like a bargain
hunter's
bazzar and anyone selling something handcrafted and worth each cent gets
mainly ignored.
Only old brands get the good prices because resale value will stay the same.
Its stupid blind loyalty to brandnames, but then its the cowboys which
have given "hand crafted" a very bad reputation.
Selling anything handcrafted to the masses is not easy.
They all think it takes 5 minutes, and a trip around
some of the art and craft bazzars where the most appalling lot of *** is for
sale
is an indicator that nobody can make something beautiful for someone else
and get paid well unless they have invested hugely in creating a name
and a myth about the goods, likr Halcro did.
Patrick Turner.
>
>
> bassett
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