Re: gospel choir and band in 1500 seater q's

Thanks scottt and all

ps scott I may have erroneously sent this to your personal mail. sorry !

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: gospel choir and band in 1500 seater q's


gregory butterworth <greg.butterworth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am doing the sound for a touring gospel choir and band in 100 to 1500
seater concert halls.
That means the pa and a recording as well at some point.
The live band is the easy bit. :o)
Now for the singers. I have never done a choir before.

Okay, what is the group ABOUT? Is the group mostly about the soloists,
or is the group about the choir?

It changes throughout. I would say approx 60% of the material is the band
and the whole choir.
20% is band, backing choir and solo, 10% solo and band, 10% solo no backing.
The program is not sectioned like this it is all over the place. :o)
The band are always secondary. The vocals are always the focus.


I think 2 overhead mics on each choir side plus a single trail of mics for
the "cross" movement and 4 old fashioned wired mics on stands for the 4
soloists would be the way to go. This also means I could record everything
seperately and mix later.

That sounds like a good idea, and I would pick a microphone with a nice
tight pattern and throw a good notch filter on them, then set the notches
up beforehand to reduce feedback issues. A pair of good hypercardioids on
the choir can be a huge help.



As the sources are quite close and must visually mimic church pews (I cannot
have them in nice pods)
The 3 to 1 rule may have to compromised as there are two rows of six people
on either side of the gap.

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I was going to go 2 cardioids each side for the overheads so that I could
get a little closer and not pick up too much of one person, would that be
ok.
Though I am wondering if 1 mic each side plus "conductor" balancing might
give the best result. If only two mics I might get the big name brands in.

Rode nt5 or nt55 seem like good bang for buck. I can rob peter to pay paul
but I need to justify the extra cost of the big name mics.
Though I think I will go cheapskate for the "trail". Beyer do a cheap mce
530 for choirs but describe it as semi proffessional? Any thoughts?
I will look at the other suggestions made on this board.

The 4 solo mics would be at the front on stands but these will be hand held.
Anyone tried the akg d5?
What are your audix fave's?


First question, though: what does the choir sound like by itself with the
PA turned off? If you want it to sound that way, just louder, then you
can probably get away with just area miking the choir IF you have good
enough mikes, and can arrange the speaker systems for low enough leakage.
That is the most natural sound you'll get. Realize, though, some of the
gospel guys don't want natural, but they want artificially close sound.


I like it natural but I do think a close up sound is needed for some of the
tracks with long solos.
I will ask that they move to the solo mics for that.


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