Re: High resolution digital recorders

On Oct 17, 5:25 pm, "andrejs eigus" <l...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A-DATA CF 16GB for $120:

Will your recorder take a 16GB card? Most of these are just catching
up with 8 GB cards. I find that to be quite expensive since I've been
buying 120 to 160 GB hard drives for about $30, brand new. A $120
memory card is only considered "removable media" by those with big
budgets. It's really fixed media and the recorder costs $120 more than
you think it does. It may be physically removable, but most people
don't have a stack of memory cards on the shelf. If you can load it on
to your computer faster with a card reader than through the USB or
Firewire port, you take it out, but you put it right back in.

i will wait until 16GB drops even further and, perhaps, replace the
existing card with it. i find 8GB, however, to be quite a reasonable amount
of space to keep recorded material.

It depends on what you're doing. I often record at weekend long (or
sometimes week long) festivals where I'm also mixing the live sound. I
appreciate the convenience of not having to change media during the
work day, and not having to dump it off on a computer at the end of
the day when all I want is dinner, a glass of wine and to soak in the
hot tub. If you're recording 2-hour shows a couple of times a month,
or production audio that you're going to use as soon as you get home
with the recording, a 2-hour capacity is probably OK.

hard drives are less reliable, have moving parts and produce noise...

I can't deny that they have moving parts, however I have never had a
problem with noise or reliability. Nothing lasts forever, and flash
memory has a finite number of write/read cycles. We don't know what
that is in terms of recording projects yet. I don't know any recording
engineers who have "used up" a card, but I do know some photographers
who have.

there's a speculation that 2.8 Mhz DSD isn't enough in order to compensate
signal to noise ratio with 1-bit technology, and that the PCM 24/96 has a
better S/N ratio at 40khz than DSD

I won't argue with the numbers, but I will tell you that subjectively,
the DSD mode sounds better than 96 kHz PCM on the Korg MR-1. Both are
extremely quiet. Because of the gentle filter on the DSD output, the
high frequency response is actually flatter further out on PCM than in
the DSD mode, but either extends further than my ability to reproduce
it. And if you want a higher streaming rate, the MR-1000 does it at
twice the rate of the MR-1.

I wouldn't use DSD, though, as a routine thing. You really can't do
very much with it. You can't make a disk that plays in the car, or
even on the DVD player in the living room that plays SACDs, at least
not without a pretty expensive authoring system. Korg sells it as a
"future proof" recording system, and they provide a program to convert
it to any reasonable format. Some say that an MR-1 DSD recording
converted to 24/96 sounds better than a direct 24/96 PCM recording on
the same recorder, but you couldn't convince me of that. I'm not a
golden ear. If you insist, the Korg will go up to 192 khz sample rate.

Many of my recordings go into an archive and may never be played, or
might be played for the first time 10 or 15 years after they're made.
CDs (16-bit 44.1 kHz) will probably still be playable in the future.
Will anyone know what DSF, DSDFF, and WSD files are years from now? At
some point you have to cut the audiophile crap and be practical if
you're going to be a working professional.

I can't believe that I've been working with a Nomad Jukebox 3 as my
field recorder for about five years now, but I still haven't found
anything that I can justify as a replacement (yes, money is an object).

.

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