Re: Low End Room Issues

"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:45:42 -0400, kooz wrote
(in article
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On Mar 15, 8:58 am, Ty Ford <tyreef...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:02:35 -0400, Ben -
TheStudioRI.com wrote (in article
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Ok, here we go. my control room measures 9x13x7. the
speakers are against the 9 back wall. I've done
EVERYTHING I know how to do to tame the bass. I have
bass traps in every corner, a custom 8" bass trap on
the back wall behind the speakers, foam bass traps
along the rear wall, diffusers above the mix position,
etc. nothing has really helped. aside from
redesigning the entire room (which I would do, but
only if nothing else helps), what are your
suggestions?

Ben,

Specifically, what is the problem?

Regards,

Ty Ford

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This thread started with an earlier post. Ben was
asking for advice on "better" monitors to replace his
Mackie HR824s with, since the mixes he is making on his
Sennheiser headphones "translate better" and "have
better imaging." It seems the group has convinced him
to examine his "professionally designed/treated" control
room/mix suite acoustics, but his "years of engineering
experience" are suggesting that his current set-up is
adequate.


Hmm, classic case of which one's right. Chances are
neither are totally right, but since "fixing" the
headphones isn't really an option, you start thinking
room.

I have nodes in my room. I know where they are. I know
how much more to expect from them. I go to them to check
mixes. If I'm hear more than X in them, I have to pull
back the LF EQ.

I haven't been in a studio yet that doesn't have audible
nodes somewhere; walls, corners and other places. Try not
to get hung up on nodes. I don't know where you have the
Mackies in relationship to the corners walls and ceiling.
Could yo post a jpg of an overhead view?

In a related note: I'm breaking in my Acura RSX speakers
as translation speakers and find a BIG difference between
them and my JBL L100. Driving me a bit nuts on the
present project, but I'll get it.

Ironically, the Acura RSX speakers are probably a good example of
dovetailing speakers with limited bass extension to a room that starts
kicking up the bass at a relatively high frequency. If they get it right,
this technique can be pretty impressive.

Thing is the car sound boys can get it right with the speakers and then blow
it elsewhere in the system. My Milan (Fusion with different grille and
taillights) gets it right, but only if you first turn the bass control *all*
the way down. You also have to turn the treble almost all the way down.
Suddenly, the sound very extended and reasonably smooth in both directions.
Dynamic range improves dramatically. It's almost like they shipped it with
the loudness contour from an old Fisher tube receiver turned on all the
time. ;-)

Some of the best OEM sound systems in the industry end up in Chrysler trucks
and Jeeps.


.

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