Re: Yamaha MSP10's vs. Mackie HR824's?



"Zigakly" <no@xxxxx> wrote in message
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I can't prove you wrong, but I don't buy it. To my
knowledge the output of vent ports has ~50% THD

What mechanism generates this 50% THD?

That's another issue I can't answer conclusively,

That has something to do with it being grossly wrong.

but
sound waves bouncing around a box and finding their way
out a tube ain't gonna be the same as when they left the
cone.

That is in fact why ports work - their output is different from that of the
cone.

It doesn't keep me up nights wondering why not.

Deep thought doesn't seem to be one of your strong points, Ziggy.

At the wavelengths where box tuning matters boxes are
themselves negligibly small; front and back are
same-same. The box is just a isobaric pressure chamber
for our purposes and the port location machts nichts.

In english please. Isobaric speaker designs are also not
widely used for studio monitors.

What isobaric means in this context is that the pressure is very much the
same at every instant and in every place inside a loudspeaker box. Think of
it as a ballon that is being inflated and deflated.

There was a time when I'd have agreed more with your
disdain of resonant box designs, but the later
generations, often including electronic assist in
band-shaping, work well. It's really more of an
engineering ball game these days, and a balancing act of
competing goals.

I have a disdain for "resonant box designs"?

You certainly harbor a lot of misapprehensions about ports and passive
radiators.

Boxes are
by their very nature resonant. There is no avoiding it.
My point is that passive radiators are generally
unreasonably resonant for studio montior purposes.

How many times do you need to hear that this is wrong?

There are exceptions to every rule, but IMO the HR824 isn't one
of them.

I question how well that opinion is properly informed.

I also recognize that good work is done with them on a
regular basis. Just not by me.

There's really only two things to do with a monitor that you can't work with
because you can't trust it:

(1) Learn to trust your monitor in some sense
(2) Get a monitor that you can trust.

Thing is - if your mistrust is due to faulty facts or reasoning, then you've
got a larger problem.


.



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