Re: Expanding the digi 002 rack


nekcih wrote:
Well, I've worked with the digi002 for a year or so now and it's a
pretty decent device. I just think it was a very poor design choice on
the part of digidesign to only include 4 pres. It appears to me that
they use it as a way to get you to buy more of their gear. Otherwise,
why didn't they just include them? Everything else is there. If you
open the box, there's plenty of room for them. So why not?

Have you ever heard of "price point?" Someone in the marketing
department decides how much they want it to cost before it's even
designed, and then the engineering department cuts whatever they have
to in order to make it sell for that price. If the product is targeted
to people who have $1000 to spend, it's probably reasonable to assume
that people with that size budget aren't going to have a lot of
microphones, at least a lot of microphones that sound as good as the
interface is capable of sounding.

So they put four mic inputs on it, figuring that most people will start
out using one or two mics, and maybe eventually grow into using four
before they decide that they've outgrown the system and need to either
expand or replace it. While you might argue that a mic preamp has only
$2 worth of ICs, resistors, and capacitors in it, the additonal
connectors cost another buck a piece, as well as take up panel space.
They might not need significantly more space on the circuit board to
add the mic preamps, but maybe they'd need the next size larger case.
And/or a larger power supply - you wouldn't want them to give you those
extra four mic inputs without phantom power, woud you? So all in all,
it might increase the retail price by $200-$250 to make it into an
8-input device.

Now you might have been perfectly willing to buy it for $1250, but
marketing people do a lot of research on these things, and if their
research tells them that for evey one like you, there are three who
will balk at anything over $1,000 (and don't need any more than four
preamps anyway) and will buy something else.

So that's how it works.

Be thankful that there are several optoins for upgrading what you
already own rather than having to replace it entirely. I consider that
to be a good way to save money when you initially buy and get more
mileage out of your investment when you need more than what you
originally bought.

It's strange to me why people think they need to defend digidesign.

I don't think we're specifically defending Digidesign here, but rather
understanding how this segment of the industry works. If you spent
$15,000 on a ProTools HD system, you'd be making money with it.
Upgrading is just a cost of ownership. At the ProTools LE level,
they're dealing with customers who don't want to spend a lot of money
and didn't pay a lot of money for their system. Can you blame them for
not wanting to keep giving away more to people who are already spending
the minimum?

Their just an ok company full of some good and some bad products, some
good and some bad leadership. Sometimes they are the best and
sometimes they are not.

That describes just about every company.

Anyway, I've recorded with much more expensive and higher quality gear
than the digi002. I've been doing this stuff for several years now.
I've played with some very expensive gear and I've played with some
very cheap gear. In my opinion, the mics and the preamps are the most
important hardware involved

That's a reasonable conclusion. So why are you whining about not having
four more mediocre preamps in the box when you have the opportunity to
add four really good preamps, perhaps that cost more than the 002R? A/D
converters are important, too, and you have the opportunity to upgrade
those, too - and you can do that without learning new software, or
getting some new hardware's drivers to work on your system.

.

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