Re: Mackie 400F whine (postponed purchase thoughts)



Scott, I'm very much in the learning process on this bundle of issues.
But based on what I think I might understand so far, I have the
opposite impression from what you seem to be saying.

My take is: You've got audible interference, you're poking around and
listening to the results, and you find that the noise goes away when
you lift a particular AC safety ground. Bravo--you've found the likely
point of entry for interference in a cable shield.

But disconnecting any AC safety ground creates a serious safety hazard;
someone can get injured or killed (for real, not bullshit) by that
"solution." And noise current in cable shields is, as you say, the
order of the day in the modern world. If no further solutions were
available, we'd all have to go around creating safety hazards more and
more often as the world gets crazier with its use of RF devices.

So for an engineer, the next question has got to be: How is shield
current getting converted into audio-frequency signals inside the
equipment? And the answer is often some kind of pin 1 problem. Finding
and fixing that problem makes the equipment far less likely to turn
such current into anything audible. This can be done by using isolating
devices such as input transformers, Neutrik EMC-XLR cable connectors or
Shure A15RF in-line couplers--or better yet, by improving the internal
grounding of the equipment as time permits.

It would be ideal if the equipment manufacturers would catch on and
take care of this as part of their product design, and indeed some
manufacturers do. But I've waited and waited, and somehow all my 20-
and 30-year-old gear just doesn't seem to be updating itself. All the
old installed systems in the world aren't responding like that, either;
I wonder what's wrong.

--best regards

.



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