Re: network admin

Like I said in my last post, if the machine was dedicated for audio purposes
then that is different. My understanding of the original post (which appears
to be wrong) was that the user had a normal company machine and decided to
install audio apps on it for personal use. I understand completely how
important it is to dedicate audio workstations to the task, I have many of
my own that are dedicated to this same task.

Saying virus prevention is left to the end-user is only partly right. While
poor practices on the part of end users result in many virus transmissions,
there are a lot of viruses that spread in other ways. The one going around
right now, for example, requires nothing to spread, except an OS with a
particular flaw unpatched. Many root kits don't even require that much to
spread. That's great that you have never had a virus but it's mostly because
you are lucky and/or your machine(s) are not networked. In a corporate
network environment, your "end user is responsible for security" ideas are
about the fastest way possible outside of visiting porn sites to get
infected.

IS people have to find a balance here and neither side is usually happy with
it. But at the end of the day if it's on my network, it belongs to me. And,
if the user cannot or will not allow me to secure the machine to protect it,
and protect others from it, then that's too bad. If this user's network is
so poorly designed that they cannot safely accomodate the need for a
dedicated audio workstation then their IS guys are idiots, but there are
ways to do it and make all sides happy if you know what you are doing.

And BTW we don't have the virus, because the 4 or 5 layers of defense from
the Internet in to the network are blocking it. It's all about good design!

-Ben

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <mams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:JfKMe.9872$Xw5.6579@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "Ben Hanson" <transparency_76@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message...
>
>> If the machine belongs to the company and the machine is on the company's
>> network then there is no such thing as "untimely access".
>
> Then you know little to nothing about dedicated audio workstations and
> why it's almost essential that such CPU and software intensive apps be
> left uninterrupted. Obviously, the pea-brained nerds that took over this
> poster's facility a few weeks ago have no clue, either. ;-)
>
>> This virus going
>> around today shows once again how important it is for businesses to keep
>> tight control over their hardware or risk killing the entire network,
>> potentially, and bringing everyone's productivity to a halt.
>
> Fool end users will bring on the viruses, and they'd hurt only themselves
> if it wasn't for all the network hooplah that's party totally unecessary.
>
>> You gotta go with the lesser evil and the lesser evil sometime is
>> inconveniencing users for the good of all.
>
> I'm sorry about your current experiences with a virus. Obviously, you
> have
> a few daft users or you have systems that are constantly tied to a network
> which is constantly tied to the internet... or all of the above. The
> *user* is
> responsible for virus infections -- teach 'em right from wrong or boot
> 'em...
> or don't allow them to receive data at all.
>
> A dedicated workstation (which this person's machine *was* before some
> desk-jockey networking types took over the company, forced an OS upgrade
> and demanded networking) should never see the light of the internet or be
> forced to have an open network running in the background. Work paid for
> by a consumer has to be *guaranteed*.
>
>> Now I am assuming here of course that the machine belongs to the company
>> and
>> that the audio apps installed are unapproved or being used for unapproved
>> purposes.
>
> Well... obviously, you missed a couple of earlier threads by this poster.
> <g>
> (See paragraph above)
>
>> If that is not the case then I apologize, cause that is a whole
>> other thing! But even if that is the case, such as is often the case in
>> corporate marketing departments that insist on using Mac's when everyone
>> else is on XP, those segments of the network can and should be expected
>> to
>> be overly scrutinized and segmented onto other networks to protect
>> everyone
>> else from them, and vice-versa.
>
> They probably shouldn't be networked *at all* !! But I understand that
> having
> bulk access to the internet is of almighty importance these days, followed
> by
> inter-office sharing of information and external hardware.
>
> Dedicated audio or graphics workstations do NOT need to be on the internet
> or a network for any reason as a part of the general operating routine.
> There
> are alternative methods or times for transferring files.
>
>> And I realize I am sounding like an IT Nazi here but it's really just
>> common
>> sense in today's climate. Maybe it's just this virus stuff lately that
>> has
>> me on the edge...
>
> You *are* an IT Nazi. ;-) You've obviously not grown through
> many
> of the tribulations of audio software conflicts over the years as audio
> has
> migrated to computer.
>
> It's the end user that's responsible for your security concerns, though.
> I do
> not use anti-virus products and never have, nor have I ever had a
> virus....
> and I don't need a systems administrator to control my access because
> they either don't trust me or want access to my PC.
>
> Sorry, but I'll take the side of the audio person long before the
> networking
> person, because I understand how important it is to dedicate usage.
>
> --
> David Morgan (MAMS)
> http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
> Morgan Audio Media Service
> Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
> _______________________________________
> http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com
>
>


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