Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?



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If not, are they all worthless?

The technical tests in Stereophile are somewhat
useful at times.

But as a rule, the high end ragazines are good for a
laugh, and not much else.

Do ANY audio magazines use DBTs?

Sound and Vision, and before that Stereo Review and
Audio.

So only one that is in business, it seems.

Oh, its all been reduced to a popularity contest?

How high school! ;-(

Arny, I spent 5 hours today in a room full of lawyers,
testifying rather than teaching a class with finals
coming up in two weeks.  So, I'm REALLY not in the mood
for your sophomoric "observations".

As usual you can't take responsibility for your own actions, Jenn.

Let's see... my action of truthfully stating (according to your post)
that one mag that is in business uses DBTs?  Yep, I take total
responsibility for that action.

Jenn, you're the one who made the first sophmoric observation. I just
pointed it out.

What was wrong with it?

"Popularity contest"
(read:  market forces) is just one possibility.

Not being a hands-on techie Jenn,you have no idea of the work
involved in
doing proper technical or subjective testing of audio gear. The
market
force
that limited the popularity of DBTs is that they are a ton more work,
in
a
context that is driven by advertising dollars and superficial
analyses.

And that's exactly my point, Arny.  See the next sentence:

Another  would be that DBT is more expensive to carry out, and is
cost prohibitive.

That you would see the additional expense of doing DBTs as a mere
possibility shows how little you understand, Jenn.

Wake up, Arny.  Get that razor-sharp mind in gear this morning.  The
possibility isn't that it would cost more; that much is obvious.

Not at all. Reviewers are paid pretty much a flat rate.
So where's the cost? I think it's all NRE.

Time is money.

Not to S'phile they play a flat rate for reviews.
Atkinson could require ABX tests by his reviewers.
He could even facilitate them so they can be performed without
assistance. That part would require some NRE, though not much IMO.



  The
possibility is that the increased cost is why mags don't do it.

Possibility?   It's funny, anything is possible to people who
don't know anything.

ScottW

Ah shucks.  You don't think I know anything?  Anyway, cost is clearly a
possibility.

Reviews are flat rate.
The possibilities are being reduced.

ScottW

I'm surprised that you don't get this concept. How do you think that
people who write reviews make a living (other than corruption, of
course)? They:
1. Write more reviews, or,
2. They work at some other job

Either way, I repeat, time is money.
.



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