Re: Bipolar Transistors for Audio

On Feb 15, 9:07 pm, Clyde Slick <Mr.clydesl...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Arny covets the famous milspec $2,000 toilet seat. Maybe if he can
unload a few hundred obsolete sound cards, his dream can come true.

Clyde, we all are ignoring GOIA. I really think you should give it a
go. He's absolutely worthless to discuss anything with, as you well
know. Nobody can force you to, but why not join us? By ignoring GOIA
for the petty troll that he is the quality of discussions here has
already improved very dramatically IMO. GOIA detracts from
discussions. You can help add to them.

BTW, that $2,000 "mil-spec" toilet seat never cost more to produce
than a typical civilian version. The reason it went for $2,000 was
simply an accounting trick to recoup mandated costs not funded by the
original contract. That's also true of hammers, ashtrays and most of
the other famous examples of "over-priced" military gear.

While there are true examples of military equipment costing much more
than a civilian counterpart (Bendix Red Bank tubes come to mind. A
6384 cost several times what a civilian 6AR6 cost, but a stock 6AR6
could not withstand the temperature or shock specs of a 6384, which as
I understand it was designed specifically for high-performance
aircraft and missile use), even in the old days most "mil-spec"
electronics parts were off-the-shelf. To think that a tube
manufacturer, for example, had a production line for 12AX7 tubes and
another, seperate production line for "mil-spec" 12AX7 tubes does not
stand up if one examines a JAN versus a civilian tube. They were, with
some very few exceptions, identical.

The problem was that there were inches-thick specifications that had
to be adhered to for everything from paperclips to power transformers
which added costs not related to the actual product. Most of that is
gone now (as a result, BTW, of Clinton). I recall hearing about "Mil-
Spec potato chips" ("No more than 10% of the the Potato Chips in any
bag shall be broken or crushed") from a former Frito Lay rep. He had
to deliver snack products to military dining facilities and base PXs
and have the base veterinarian certify that the shipment met the spec.
They still sold for the same price as the civilian potato chips in the
PX though. LOL!

Did you know that you can get "mil-spec" cellular telephones and
computer products? Motorola and others offer them. They may be
slightly more expensive than others, but certainly not at the premium
that $2,000 for a $50 toilet seat represents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIL-STD-810
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