Re: Another obituary for the CD

On Jan 30, 1:52 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
<artygu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:40 pm, "ScottW" <Scott...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artygu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
On Jan 29, 6:41 pm, ScottW <Scott...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:22 pm, <artygu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:Neither do christians, if they're really christians.

If Christians in significant convinced me that the bible
ordered them to kill or convert non-christians or
subjugate women....I'd suggest being a christian was
dumb too.

Does the bible specifically relegate women to a lower tier? Yes.

:Do you also believe the pope or any other religious leader is equally
:full of ***?

Only when the pope said pedophilia in the Catholic church
was a media conspiracy.  That's about the closest in
recent times.  History before our times is not relevant
AFIAC....you, however, seem inclined to bear guilt.

Oh, 2pid, believe me, I *know* that "history before our times is not
relevant" to you. That's the sign of a true bonehead.

There's also a distinction between understanding history and "bearing
guilt".

Understanding, for example, that we in the US used to enslave people,
understanding the causes and the effects of that enslavement, and
understanding the long-term results is not "guilt".

I am not directly responsible for slavery. Neither are you. But one of
the results of it was legal, institutionalized discrimination. One of
the results of that was "white privelege". There are many other
results of that as well. They exist today, as do the attitudes that
provided the foundation for that "peculiar institution" (see any post
by Bratzi as an example). You are responsible for understanding that
if for no other reason than to be a decent human being. You (in
particular because you are a white male) are responsible for fighting
it for the same reason. You have failed in your responsibility. "It's
just not your problem."

BTW, the bible DOES allow slavery. There are even rules about how it
should be conducted. You are no doubt dismayed at the passing of that
institution here, you being a good christian and all.

Why would you assume that "pisses me off"?

Everything else does. Is this an exception?

:Not everything elae pisses me off, so your question is invalid.

Actions speak louder than words.

Puhleeze don't preach to me 2pid. You have "actions" that you
recommend for everybody but yourself. This is no different.

It's also "trite". LOL!

Pissed off people are more prone to blow *** up as
they think god has told them to do.
Good thing you're an atheist or you would have
exploded a long time ago.

:This from the King of Anger Management Skills. LOL!

I am blessed.

With a noticeable lack of grey matter.

But plenty of hypocrisy.

2pid, no offense, but your one-liners are weak and boring. Was the
kennel closed today or something? ;-)

Should I do the multi-paragraph rambling nonsense thing
as you so dearly love?

:I know words confuse you.

 I just can't read your bull beyond a paragraph or two.
The eyes close and the music fills the air....

Is that your excuse for not understanding anything that's said to you?
Apparently anybody you disagree with has the same affect on you.

 That was more about stupid and lame one-
liners like:

"Good thing you're an atheist or you would have exploded a long time
ago."

You think?   I think your persona with a religious conversion
is a crusade waiting to happen.

There you go, 'thinking' again. You've never been successful at it.
Nobody, however, has been successful at making you aware of how you
appear to others, so have at it.

Are you even dimly aware of how angry you come off? (A preemptive
strike at the invariable "IKYABWAI" that will follow. Most people
understand that sarcasm, etc. is not "anger" but it's probably "trite"
of me to say so. LOL!

Did you read Joshua 23?

Yup. It's not the same as 9:5 IMO.

:Actually, the point was that god is telling them to expect exactly
:what is happening. I thought that would make you happy.

I would be happy if one of them did not explicitly order
killing.

Well, that doesn't appear to be the case. Now what? Should we do some
killin' of our own? Oh, wait: we already are. I suppose we are morally
superior, as the killing we do isn't ordered by the bible. Our killing
is justified.

And we should reinstitute slavery.

As I said many times before (MANY times before), it may indeed at some
point come to a 10th or 12th or 15th (or whatever number we're on now)
Crusade. Why are you in such a hurry? This stuff has been happening
for centuries. Suddenly to those "less-endowed" in the brains
department Islam is THE BIGGEST DEAL EVER TO HAPPEN EVER! WE WILL ALL
LIVE UNDER SHARIA! FOREVER! LIFE WILL BE OVER!

Those guys you posted a photo of recently may be building rowboats (no
doubt paid for by robbing banks) as we speak. Meanwhile we arm the
House of Saud (perhaps the "worst of the worst" as the seat of the
most fundamental Islamic Extremism) with F-16s and other military
hardware. Ditto Pakistan. Ditto Afghanistan (in the 1980s and again
now). Ditto Iraq (in the 1980s and again now). Ditto Iran. History
does indeed repeat itself, even if we don't want it to, 2pid.
According to you, we are arming the Devil Himself. And I'll bet you do
not even have the faintest glimmer as to why that is, and has been, an
amazingly bad thing for us in the long haul.

That's why my advice would be to take a longer view and not get swept
up in the emotions of the moment. But because you cannot, or will not,
do that, that's also why I've said (MANY times) that you'd be an
absolute disaster as a military leader. And you would be.

Duh.

Anyway, no doubt when "Rapture" comes you'll be snapped up like a sale-
priced bra at the annual Filene's Basement sale. And I agree with you:
that's an entirely 'rational' belief. LOL!

And 2pid, please send down a glass of cold water occasionally, as you
look down upon me burning in the eternal fires of hell and damnation
with a self-satisfied smirk. OK? LOL!

These Muslims are simply fulfilling biblical
prophesy. You should be happy. Rapture is near!

:See?

 Nope.  You're not being rational or accurate, but I'm not
really inclined to debate religion with an atheist.

Thank god. (LOL!) There's nothing less interesting to me than
'discussing' religion with somebody who 'thinks' they're 'rational'
and needs "proof" of other claims. They always end up making circular
arguments, but I suppose someone as 'rational' as you are would see
that.

Cables make all the difference in the world, 2pid: you just have to
have faith.

LOL!

Why do you assume that quoting one thing from
a blog implies one agrees with everything on the blog?

:Um, why not? What did you disagree with?

The relevance of ancient history to today's problems.
Human history only repeats itself if we let it.

Um, the Muslims were beaten back, 2pid. The Islamic empire described
in that historical excerpt is no more. I'd suggest that you reread
that history. I think that you've been trying to argue the reverse of
that.

Pretty typical...I say I think this...you say, No you don't.
and so it goes.....

ScottW
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