Re: Blind Cable Test at CES


Oliver Costich wrote:
JBorg, Jr. wrote:
Oliver Costich wrote:



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Physics is models based on observation of events repeating, or as
David Hume calls it "bad habit". The level of "certainty" or
probability of error can be reduced to infinitesimal levels but
uncertainty is still there even if we don't behave like it is. The
less controllable experiments are, and the farther the "science"
deviates from having rigorous mathematical models, the less
certainty you have. In particular you seem to be willing to
abandon all use of statistics as to you the results don't provide
certainty (and they never do).


But clearly, such test obviously did not proved that subtle
differences did not exist, and as you said, disproving the subtle
difference that audiophiles hear is a certainty NOT in the realm of
Statistical analysis.

You seems to be saying still that statistic analysis or some other
method can be use, but stat analysis is not it.

What am I suppose to do, Mr. Costich ?

Go learn something about science and measurement, statistical design
and analysis. If test after test shows that the hypothesis that
listeners cannot identify cables, then most scientifically minded
rational people would conclude it's unlikely to be true.


But test after test shows that there is no well-designed test as it
shows.


So if a test doesn't give the answer you want the design is bad.
Since test after test fails to give the answer you want there is no
well designed test. Is that your position?

Do you know by divine knowledge that no test exists or are you relying
on there not being one so far, in which case you are relying on
statistical reasoning to support your claim.



I'm relying on the fact that there are aphids coming out of your nose
migrating to your dunderhead, and then returning back to your nose
through the fissure on your skull the following day.








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