Re: A note to China: Please send us more CO2!
- From: "KMM" <kmckelvy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:48:14 -0800
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artyguy04@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We actually need to release MORE CO2 into the atmosphere. Didja seeI don't know of anybody here who has such a thing. I've said the truth is
this, 2pid? The Chinese are doing us a FAVOR!
Please, everybody, for the sake of our children, burn as much as
possible, as soon as possible. Coal, trees, oil, it doesn't matter. It
all helps our planet!
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(i.e. The conclusion of the 2007 paper on GW by Robinson, Robinson and
Soon):
There are no experimental data to support the hypothesis that
increases in human hydrocarbon use or in atmospheric carbon dioxide
and other green house gases are causing or can be expected to cause
unfavorable changes in global temperatures, weather, or landscape.
There is no reason to limit human production of CO2, CH4, and other
minor greenhouse gases as has been proposed (82,83,97,123).
We also need not worry about environmental calamities even if the
current natural warming trend continues. The Earth has been much
warmer during the past 3,000 years without catastrophic effects.
Warmer weather extends growing seasons and generally improves the
habitability of colder regions.
As coal, oil, and natural gas are used to feed and lift from poverty
vast numbers of people across the globe, more CO2 will be released
into the atmosphere. This will help to maintain and improve the
health, longevity, prosperity, and productivity of all people.
The United States and other countries need to produce more energy, not
less. The most practical, economical, and environmentally sound
methods available are hydrocarbon and nuclear technologies.
Human use of coal, oil, and natural gas has not harmfully warmed the
Earth, and the extrapolation of current trends shows that it will not
do so in the foreseeable future. The CO2 produced does, however,
accelerate the growth rates of plants and also permits plants to
grow in drier regions. Animal life, which depends upon plants, also
flourishes, and the diversity of plant and animal life is increased.
Human activities are producing part of the rise in CO2 in the
atmosphere. Mankind is moving the carbon in coal, oil, and natural gas
from below ground to the atmosphere, where it is available for
conversion into living things. We are living in an increasingly lush
environment of plants and animals as a result of this CO2 increase.
Our children will therefore enjoy an Earth with far more plant and
animal life than that with which we now are blessed.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM600.pdf
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nob would find no conflict that Soon is funded by the American
Petroleum Institute. Money, to nob, is money, no matter where it comes
from or what the agenda might be. Money is pure.
the truth and it doesn't matter how it gets paid for.
Peer review will eventually sort it out.
Here, as we see, burning hydrocarbons is a *good* thing. The more we
burn, the better life becomes!
Soon also publishes with Sallie Baliunas, another whose work is funded
by the American Petroleum Institute. How has that gone?
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Baliunas is a strong disbeliever in a connection between CO2 rise and
climate change, saying in a 2001 essay with Willie Soon:
"But is it possible that the particular temperature increase observed
in the last 100 years is the result of carbon dioxide produced by
human activities? The scientific evidence clearly indicates that this
is not the case... measurements of atmospheric temperatures made by
instruments lofted in satellites and balloons show that no warming has
occurred in the atmosphere in the last 50 years. This is just the
period in which humanmade carbon dioxide has been pouring into the
atmosphere and according to the climate studies, the resultant
atmospheric warming should be clearly evident.[7]"
The claim that atmospheric data showed no warming trend was incorrect,
as the published satellite and balloon data at that time showed a
warming trend (see satellite temperature record). In later statements
Baliunas acknowledged the measured warming in the satellite and
balloon records, though she disputed that the observed warming
reflected human influence.[8]
As do many scientists.
(i.e. "There isn't any warming going on. Period. Well, yes there is,
but it has nothing to do with man's influence.")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sallie_Baliunas
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But wait! It gets better!
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In 2003, Baliunas and Astrophysicist Willie Soon published a review
paper on historical climatology which concluded that "the 20th century
is probably not the warmest nor a uniquely extreme climatic period of
the last millennium." With Soon, Baliunas investigated the correlation
between solar variation and temperatures of the earth's atmosphere.
When there are more sunspots, the total solar output increases, and
when there are fewer sunspots, it decreases. Soon and Baliunas
attribute the Medieval warm period to such an increase in solar
output, and believe that decreases in solar output led to the Little
Ice Age, a period of cooling from which the earth has been recovering
since 1890.[11]
Shortly thereafter, 13 of the authors of papers cited by Baliunas and
Soon refuted her interpretation of their work.[12] There were three
main objections: Soon and Baliunas used data reflective of changes in
moisture, rather than temperature; they failed to distinguish between
regional and hemispheric temperature anomalies; and they reconstructed
past temperatures from proxy evidence not capable of resolving decadal
trends. More recently, Osborn and Briffa repeated the Baliunas and
Soon study but restricted themselves to records that were validated as
temperature proxies, and came to a different result.[13]
Half of the editorial board of Climate Research, the journal that
published the paper, resigned in protest against what they felt was a
failure of the peer review process on the part of the journal.[14][15]
Otto Kinne, managing director of the journal's parent company, stated
that "CR [Climate Research] should have been more careful and insisted
on solid evidence and cautious formulations before publication" and
that "CR should have requested appropriate revisions of the manuscript
prior to publication."[16]
I agree.
(i.e.-and-)snip of non-relevant to GW gibberish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sallie_Baliunas
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And on to the other authors of this paper.
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