Re: OT:Ssshhh meet your Left


"MINe 109" <smcatut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"ScottW" <ScottW48@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Harry Lavo" <hlavo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"ScottW" <ScottW48@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Tim Russert is making the argument to *** Chenney that we "lost a buffer
to
Iran" by taking down Saddam

Now I ask anyone to explain the morality of maintaining a murderous
dictator
in power and forcing the people to endure suffering under sanctions simply
because they are enemies to our enemies. Sssshhh, isn't this exactly the
kind of historical US foreign policy that you've been saying has created
anti-US sentiment and the kind of thing we need to stop? Is this the new
left? Embrace any strategy, no matter how immoral so long as it reflects
badly on the Bush doctrine?

Russert is an embarrassment to America and if we could stop his drivel
from
reaching foreign shores, we should.

ScottW

He simply pointed out to Cheney that that was one consequence of our
action,
after Cheney dropped all pretense by saying he would have invaded Iraq even
if
it was known that Saddam had no WMD's and posed no immediate threat.

A position I wholeheartedly agree with.
You want to change hearts and minds of muslims...quit propping up
their heinous dictators.
Apparently you're one of those self centered Americans who only support
action in your own self interest. How moral of you.

You're out of line here, and in a way that smacks of Rovian preemptive
attack, accusing the opponent of your own weakness.

Feeling guilty? You should.


What was Bush's opinion of nation-building in 2000?

He has obviously changed his mind. Is that not allowed?
Tell it to John Kerry...and every other dem trying to change their
mind about the war.



WTF happenned to the pre Vietnam Kennedy liberals who wanted
to make the world a better place? They've been displaced by a
bunch of whining self-centered draft dodging socialists.

The country is currently run by whining self-centered draft-dodging
corporate tools.

Maybe... but their policies have taken the country down a path
that could make the world a better place. I don't understand
why you can't get past motive and move on to results.


Frankly, the reason you don't like Russert I suspect is that he does his
homework and doesn't accept rationalizations and falsehoods, but rather
tries
to hold his guests accountable, including the Veep. He simply kept showing
Cheney's earlier words agains his current pronouncements, which inclined
one
to have to work awfully hard to avoid seeing the misjudgements then and the
hypocrisy today.

Next time you find a politician who claims he's clairvoyant, I'm sure
he'll get your vote. Chenney accepted that difficulties were
unforeseen and challenges remain. The simple difference between
the republicans and the anti-war left (which excludes most democrats and
whose position Russert appeared to be defeding)
is that the jobs in Afghanistan and Iraq must be completed sucessfully.

It's too late for that.

BS...Taliban is on its last legs and about to fail in it's heartland if
Nato can muster the muscle.
Iraq is also coming along. AFAICT the insurgency is done.
Sectarian violence is now the challenge.

The left foolishly thinks we can just withdraw.

No, they think we can eventually withdraw.

Great...so do I, so does Bush. We all agree, who knew?

All this nitpicking with hindsight does nothing to enhance our ability to
succeed going forward.

You've rediscovered your conservative tabula rasa!

Studying past decisions and their outcomes seems prudent.

Russert was't studying...he was second guessing.

ScottW


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