Re: Q. Does anyone have anything but LIES to say here?

On 21 Apr 2006 23:30:43 -0700, soundhaspriority@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


Experimentation is not for everyone. However, I will argue that it's
not just necessary for unconventional audio products, its also
necessary for conventional audio products. I assume for example, you
have speakers in your audio system.

Nope. I use headphones exclusively. Have done since the early 70s.
Wouldn't go back to speakers for quids.

What, do you live across from your parent's bedroom?

Headphones provide a sound I could never afford from speakers. To
duplicate the sound of well-chosen $300 headphones would require $5000
speakers. They require little driving, which removes the need for an
exotic amp. They remove room effects from the equation. They cause no
vibrations. They're easily housed and don't need careful placement.
They can be used at any hour of the day or night without disturbing
others. What's not to like?


You don't find yourself listening to the sound before the music, the
bass and treble before the flute and fiddle, as it were? Because I do.
I've always found "audio", whilst clarifying the music for me, has
always been a bit of a hindrance to its enjoyment.

It's the opposite. In its post-tweaked state, when I am busy writing
messages on RAO and the stereo is playing a good song, I often have to
stop what I'm doing, go to the couch and get swallowed up by the sound.
It's very inviting, it's very enjoyable. So much, that at a certain
point, it becomes difficult to test, because I can't help getting into
the music, and forgetting to concentrate objectively on it, to
determine what has changed. BTW, I do not listen to "bass and treble"
when I'm evaluating music reproduction.... I'm WAY beyond that.

Fair enough, but even with my stereo in untweaked state I'm not
ignorant of the phenomenum of getting totally caught up in the music
to the exclusion of all else. Nor do I listen to bass and treble, but
to how closely my system emulates the sound I recall from my last
visit to the Sydney Opera House.

Nope. Fella's only apparently satisfied for now, or when he made that
post. But thoughts will creep in, I'll guarantee it.

Don't be an arrogant jackass. You don't say "nope" when you have no way
of knowing about anything you're talking about, nor do you say "I'll
guarantee it", as though that's supposed to mean something? Am I to
expect money coming my way if you're wrong? You can barely speak for
yourself, so you ought not to be speaking for others. Me, I was just
telling you what he already said.

We all speak from our life's experience. We have nothing else to base
our judgement or opinions on. I've been fiddling and tweaking since
the mid-60's. and I think I know something of how the mind works--the
male mind at least. No, you won't get money if I'm wrong, but then
you're not going to stick around to find out if I'm right or wrong,
are you? So it's easy to call me an arrogant jackass. I still say,
"Sooner or later...." ...but probably sooner.


It's the curse of the human mind to continually seek just that bit
better and better, until one day you take a CD out of the rack and
think, "I've never actually listened to this other than for testing a
tweak or adjustment. I've never actually heard it as music rather than
sound." But by then you're turning 60 and your hearing's shot to
pieces.

...and worse than that, you're Australian and you live in Australia. I
know, terrible fate it must be.

And this means what exactly? Are we into insulting countries now as
well as individuals?

I guess by your reckoning, people
should never try to improve their audio systems because once they
do.... oooh, the slippery slope that will lead them toward... they'll
be "tweakaholics" for life, and will never enjoy music again.

Strawman exaggeration. Men will always tweak. I'm just advising
caution about getting into an area that appears to have no defined
limits. I know how many hours can be expended on, say, getting the
best out of a tonearm/cartridge combination--I invested years in
it--just one combination, and I've tried many. But there are finite
possibilities here and in most other tweaks. With the Belt-type tweaks
I see virtually unlimited possibilities, and I shudder.....


Funny,
you started all this fairly reasonably...

And I continued in the same vein.

There's been many times I've
looked at a CD that I've rarely played and found that I've outgrown its
type of music. So you move on.

Different subject altogether.

I'm not going to describe for you every tweak I have in my system, and
what each sounds like. Are you kidding me?! You have no idea of all
that comprises of, and this post is already 65 times too long for you
and the average RAO citizen to read.

Gratuitous insult noted. But hey, we're used to it.

Sorry, i wasn't trying to insult anyone. I was trying to be honest. You
should try it sometime, its not as scary as you might have thought.

Further gratuitous insult noted. I'm being honest.

Many of the tweaks that I've applied to this system, I can't tell you
about. Well I could, but I don't want to. In doing so, I would be
revealing many of my best exclusive "Beltish" tweaks that I came up
with. And I would never do such a thing, because I feel it would be
like a reward to a group that has been extremely hostile and malicious
toward me from day one, extremely closed-minded, and does not deserve
it.

Truth to tell, Mr. Sound, I'm
never entirely certain you're not pulling my or someone's leg when you
go into these details. But at least you've given us enough material
for another dozen threads.

That's the important thing. I'm entirely serious about those tweaks,
but your reaction that I'm not is normal for "common people" who labour
under "quaint conventional thinking", and never stray far from "safe
territory" in their "Flatland". People think that I'm a crank but the
truth is, I *really* have to have a lot of patience with people, who
have eons to travel before they catch up with me, but who talk to me as
though they are light years ahead already, and I'm in a parallel
universe or something. And I've exhibited an inordinate amount of
patience, when the circumstances are considered.

Take a look at some of your comments here. To be honest, they put me
in mind of the New testament, the bit where Jesus berates the
bystanders: "O ye perverse and faithless generation! How long must I
be with you? How long must I suffer you?"

Funny that.

I expect there'll be no end of criticism toward me for all that, but I
say, if the option is learning something while improving my sound still
further, or sitting here expending a nova of negative energy to fight
with ghosts with no productive result to ever come of it, I think I
will always prefer the former.

And yet...here you are...

....I'm not a permanent fixture here, like you and the rest of the
Pitchfork Gang. Nor do I plan to be.

Well, I asked someone on RAO once before, "Are you going to Jerusalem
to be crucified?" It might even have been you.




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